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Silva poised to head Brazil's first leftist government in four decades
yahoo.com ^ | Oct 26, 2002 - 1:40 PM ET | HAROLD OLMOS, AP

Posted on 10/27/2002 1:11:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

SAO PAULO, Brazil - Latin America's largest nation was set to elect its first leftist government in four decades, with Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva commanding a wide lead over the ruling party's candidate in opinion polls.

Sunday's second-round vote pits Silva - a bearded former union boss - against Jose Serra, who left his job as health minister to run for office. At stake is stewardship over a resource-rich country whose economy is on the brink of recession, with soaring unemployment and staggering social inequalities.

A Silva victory could put the brakes on free-market reforms, give leftist movements in the hemisphere a boost and spell testier relations with the United States.
Brazilian presidential candidate Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva holds up a cake with frosting made as a caricature of himself at his home in Sao Bernardo do Campo, Brazil on Saturday Oct. 26, 2002. Lula will celebrate his birthday on the day of the election run-off, Sunday, Oct. 26. (AP Photo/Agilberto Lima-AE)

Silva, whose 57th birthday is on election day, was born to a poor farming family and dropped out of school to sell peanuts and shine shoes on the outskirts of Sao Paulo. At 14, he began working in a factory, where he lost a finger in a machine press.

Known in Brazil simply as "Lula," Silva began running for president in 1989 as the candidate of the Workers Party, urging landless farm workers to invade private property and calling for a default on Brazil's foreign debt, which now stands at US$230 billion.

However, in the three subsequent presidential campaigns, Silva moderated his radical tone. Foreign investors now appear calm after jitters earlier this year. A 40 percent plunge this year in Brazil's currency - due to alarm over Silva's stance - has begun reversing itself.

During a nationally televised debate Friday night, Serra - who has only 36 percentage points in opinion polls compared to Silva's 64 - tried to inject doubt on what his opponent's party stands for.

"I know the Workers' Party has changed its positions, but there are some people who still don't believe it," Serra said.

The concern that Silva remains a radical has resonated among some voters.

"Lula would rule Brazil with his true face: that of a radical unionist that scares investors from the country," said Jaime Batista Rocha, who was enjoying a beer in an outdoor refreshment stand in a lower-income neighborhood of Sao Paulo. Rocha, who said he would vote for Serra, also expressed concern about Silva's lack of administrative experience.

Still, Silva was so confident of victory that when Serra desperately appealed during the debate for his supporters to convince their friends to vote for him, Silva retorted: "I can't ask my voters to do that, or we'll have more than 100 percent."

The Workers' Party was planning a victory celebration in Cinelandia square in downtown Rio de Janeiro. On Avenida Paulista, Sao Paulo's main business avenue, Silva backers were setting up bleachers for a Sunday night victory party. Silva has been setting up a "government transition team" that would be announced on Tuesday if he wins.

The army said thousands of troops will be deployed to provide security for 115 million registered voters. Voting is compulsory in Brazil.

The challenges Silva's administration would face are huge.

Brazil - whose vast and varied geography has a bounty of natural resources - is among the world's richest countries. Yet the gap between the 20 percent poorest and the 20 percent richest Brazilians is four times that of the United States and eight times that of Japan.

During the campaign, Silva attacked the free-market reforms of current President Fernando Henrique Cardoso, who has ruled Brazil for two four-year terms and is barred from running for a third.

During the Cardoso government, Brazil privatized many of its giant monopolies and lowered import taxes, but failed to improve the lot of millions of Brazilians.

That has translated into support for Silva.

"I want things to change," said Regine Prado, a saleswoman at a music CD shop in Sao Paulo who planned to vote for Silva. This government is no good ... there are no jobs."


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Bush is asked to prevent hemispheric 'Axis of Evil' and back ouster of Venezuela's Chavez*** Concerned about Washington's lack apparent concern for a hostile potential triad of Cuba's Fidel Castro, Venezuela's Chavez, and the possible election this weekend of the leftist Lula da Silva in Brazil, Rep. Henry Hyde urges Bush in a strongly-worded letter to break with the continued Clinton policy of tolerating Chavez.

"This is the time for the Bush administration to set the factual and historical record straight: the current regime of President Chavez is illegitimate because it is based upon the systematic violation of the Venezuelan constitution in force in 1999," Hyde writes. "The Bush administration should also declare itself in sympathy with the pro-democratic civil-military coalition in Venezuela which seeks to restore democracy and should do so at once."

According to Hyde, "all the pro-democracy elements of the society including the genuinely democratic political parties, the labor unions, business associations, and religious institutions have been gathered for two days in coalition with a group of active duty military officers of flag rank demanding that President Hugo Chavez resign and that new, free and open elections be held."

Hyde is especially concerned that da Silva would make good on his statements to build and proliferate nuclear weapons: "There is a real prospect that Castro, Chavez, and Lula da Siva could constitute an axis of evil in the Americas which might soon have nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles (which Brazil had developed ended in 1990). This is the time to support the prodemocratic coalition in Venezuela and to help the people of Brazil understand the truth about Chavez so that they do not make a similar mistake and elect another pro-Castro radical who will neither help the poor, nor help their economy, nor live at peace with democratic neighbors."***

1 posted on 10/27/2002 1:11:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
States.
Brazilian presidential candidate Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva holds up a cake with frosting made as a caricature of himself at his home in Sao Bernardo do Campo, Brazil on Saturday Oct. 26, 2002. Lula will celebrate his birthday on the day of the election run-off, Sunday, Oct. 26. (AP Photo/Agilberto Lima-AE)
2 posted on 10/27/2002 1:13:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Chavez Warns Venezuela's Opposition - Dissident Officers' Number Growing *** CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) - Four days after protesters took over a plaza in Caracas, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez accused dissident officers Friday of "cooking up a military insurrection" and warned that violence will be met with violence. Chavez's denunciations came after three key military garrisons and National Guard Commander Gen. Eugenio Gutierrez proclaimed their loyalty to their commander in chief. "If they try to seize power with arms, we will respond with arms," Chavez declared in a speech at the presidential palace. "I am not going to resign." Since Tuesday, thousands of civilians have rallied at the Plaza Francia, where dissident officers have transformed a hotel into a virtual barracks, complete with security checks of journalists and others seeking entrance.

The officers want Chavez to resign and call early elections - or at least a quick referendum to measure his support. By Friday, their numbers had grown to 100, most of whom were stripped of their command for their roles in a brief April coup. The standoff has alarmed neighbors of this Andean nation, the world's fifth-largest oil producer and a leading oil supplier to the United States. They've condemned the insurrection call and endorsed a peacemaking visit this Sunday by Cesar Gaviria, secretary general of the Organization of American States. ***

3 posted on 10/27/2002 1:18:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
America likes democracy, as long as only pro-American governments are elected. America doesn't like democracy all the time. The more America pushes democracy in Third World countries with majority-poor populations, the more democratically-elected socialist, anti-American, pandering-to-the-poor governments it will face. If Mideast Arab authoritarian regimes are also replaced by democratic governments at America's misguided urging, Americans can expect more of the same but will also find its Mideast oil sources threatened. The House of Saud may be bad, but it's better than a leftist, democratically-elected Saudi government. Given the vote, most of Saudi Arabia's anti-American average citizens would vote only to use even more Saudi oil wealth to fund terrorism and probably nukes, too. The House of Saud is the devil America knows and it's preferable to the democratically-elected devil America doesn't know. America forgot that the House of Saud is America's pliant puppet in the first place that willingly pumps the oil to fuel America's SUV's. Oil is too critical to America's economy to let it come under the control of any majority anti-American Saudi electorate. America needs a continous, safe, reliable oil supply which the House of Saud willingly supplies mostly against the wishes of its own Wahabbi citizens, but what if a Saudi version of Lula or Chavez or Osama ally got elected to office in a democratic Saudi Arabia?

By mindlessly promoting democracy in the Third World for the past few decades before these countries had developed majority middle-class populations through pro-capitalist authoritarian regimes, America faces the ongoing prospect of more and more anti-American, leftist Lulas and Chavezes coming to power in more and more Third World republics where America had unthinkingly preached democracy before they were ready.
4 posted on 10/27/2002 1:14:14 AM PST by formosaplastics
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To: formosaplastics
Interesting points. It is a mess. We need to stay strong militarily while this plays out.
5 posted on 10/27/2002 1:36:26 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; IronJack; Scholastic; belmont_mark; janetgreen; Sawdring; DoughtyOne; ...
Lula will win big this evening with two-thirds of the vote. He will restart Brazil's nuclear missile program (they already have two nukes and space launch vehicles that could be converted to ICBMs) within a few years he will formally declare himself a Communist just like Chavez. Already his party is the biggest in the Brazilian lower house and they will win a few more Governorships today. Lula will default on Brazil's debt within six months plunging the rest of Latin America into an economic recession and Argentina into an even worse recession making it ripe for a Marxist electoral takeover early next year. Ecuador will be the next to fall to a Castroite in the second and final round of voting for President. Argentina will likely be the next to fall to the Commies in March. We will rue the day when JFK pledged the US would never invade Cuba because if we had liberated Cuba a decade or more, none of these Communist victories would have been possible.
6 posted on 10/27/2002 5:03:18 AM PST by rightwing2
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To: formosaplastics
By mindlessly promoting democracy in the Third World for the past few decades before these countries had developed majority middle-class populations through pro-capitalist authoritarian regimes

This is the argument of the communist dictators of China. This ideas says a bustling economy should precede freedom. What motivation does an authoritarian regime have to give up its power after a middle class is created? What motivation does an authoritarian regime have to create a middle class?

Thomas Jefferson believed man has an inalienable right to liberty and does not have to serve any time under the boot of a tyrant. Democracy is not a governmental tool to be "mindlessly promoted." It is man's God-given right to participate in governance and rules under which he must live.

Is self-directed government only the privilege of a middle class or the educated? I could argue that the majority of poor Americans are not informed enough to choose their representatives. Some of their choices are obviously inferior. Shall we take away their votes?

7 posted on 10/27/2002 5:05:44 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It looks to me like we need to get busy in this hemisphere and enforce the Monroe Doctrine. It would almost appear that this communist advance, coupled with the ascent of terrorism, is a concerted effort by our enemies.

Sadly, military needs in our own hemisphere might be one argument against a sustained war in Iraq.

8 posted on 10/27/2002 6:05:33 AM PST by IronJack
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9 posted on 10/27/2002 8:06:26 AM PST by Free the USA
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To: formosaplastics
Bump Democracy is stupid everywhere period. Where outside of Switzerland has anything other than a monarchy or right wing dictatorship worked long term ever?
10 posted on 10/27/2002 7:52:12 PM PST by weikel
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
This is the argument of the communist dictators of China.

They are not really communist anymore since Deng I'd say they are facist and the arguement is sound.

This idea says a bustling economy should precede freedom.

Democracy has nothing to do with freedom Democracy ussually destroys freedom.

What motivation does an authoritarian regime have to give up its power after a middle class is created?

It doesn't nor should it if a regime is successful in creating freedom and prosperity you want it to stay

What motivation does an authoritarian regime have to create a middle class?

If they are pro capitalist it will develop on its own.

Thomas Jefferson believed man has an inalienable right to liberty and does not have to serve any time under the boot of a tyrant.

Confusing freedom and Democracy once again I see

Democracy is not a governmental tool to be "mindlessly promoted." It is man's God-given right to participate in governance and rules under which he must live.

You think your individual vote actually effects policy eh.

Is self-directed government only the privilege of a middle class or the educated?

No educated mobs tend to not be much better than uneducated mobs I could argue that the majority of poor Americans are not informed enough to choose their representatives.

You'd be right.

Some of their choices are obviously inferior. Shall we take away their votes?

Yep. Democracy & Republics just allow the majority to run roughshod over minorities steal their stuff etc, also laws and regulations multiply endlessly sorry popular government in general doesn't work. It has in Switzerland but I know of no other case. In America it worked until Woodrow Wilson's time but thats little over 100 years since the constitution was ratified.

11 posted on 10/27/2002 8:08:18 PM PST by weikel
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To: weikel
I'm confusing freedom and democracy? You are somebody who wants people to live under an authoritarian regime until they are economically "ready" to participate in government. That is the view of an elitist who pretends to know what is good for other people. You are the confused one. I see you want to play word games and twist the meanings of common terms. The right to vote is the essence of freedom because without it, the individual has no voice. If the majority should not prevail in voting, should the minority prevail? Which minority?

Democracy does not provide complete freedom to the individual. It is not possible to do that because rules of society must be established under which people live and to which a single individual may object. For example, I may want to exercise my freedom not to stop my automobile at any intersection of roads. Society has a stronger interest in enforcing my stopping to prevent injury and death to others. The founders of the United States of America created protection within our constitution of certain fundamental freedoms. There is no reason why other countries cannot do the same while providing a fundamental right of citizens to vote and participate in government.

I don't agree with your analysis and I think it is a defense of tyranny by elitism. Your argument is a lot of people are not smart enough to know what is good for them and therefore should have no voice until they become smart enough through economic improvement. Elitists like you would decide that common people were NEVER smart enough to vote. You want freedom but you deny it to the masses.

12 posted on 10/28/2002 3:59:04 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Who was better the elected Allende or the unelected Pinochet?
13 posted on 10/28/2002 7:30:12 AM PST by weikel
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To: weikel
Allende was a choice of the people. The people may vote for a scoundrel but he is their choice. The people often make foolish choices, such as their elections of Bill and Hillary Clinton, but they can correct their poor choices by electing someone else at the next election.

Free elections are not perfect but vastly superior to the tyranny of a self-appointed brutal dictator who comes to power by force.

14 posted on 10/28/2002 3:13:37 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority; Clemenza; Tropoljac; Cacique; Goetz_von_Berlichingen; ...
Forgive me if I suspect you of being a liberal, Allende was setting himself up as a commie dictator and Pinochet was in every way a model ruler. The majority does not have a right to elect a canidate to rob and loot a minority that is at the heart of why popular government is wrong.
15 posted on 10/28/2002 3:17:17 PM PST by weikel
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
BTW Democracies come together by force you think I would voluntarily accept Ted Kennedy as my Senator.
16 posted on 10/28/2002 3:18:27 PM PST by weikel
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To: weikel
I am certainly not a liberal as you suggest. I am very conservative. Here is the problem with your approach. In a democracy, if I decide a liberal-controlled congress is an outrage, I can try to influence my fellow citizens to elect conservatives. I can attempt to get my kind of politician elected.

What happens in a dictatorship with which I disagree? Do I raise an army of thugs to violently overthrow the leadership? I don't have elections as an option in that situation.

You are very disappointed with the way people vote. So am I. I cannot believe the American people elected Bill Clinton twice. I cannot believe Hillary Clinton was chosen U.S. Senator by the people of the state of New York. I cannot understand why Ted Kennedy is re-elected as a Senator from Massachusetts. Those examples, and yours, do not prove free elections are a failure. They prove democracy is imperfect and a majority can be stupid. Your alternative, however, is wrong because it proclaims people are not smart enough to have a voice in their government.

Forget about an entire country for a moment. Consider your local town. Do the voting citizens of your town have enough intelligence to select a mayor and town council? If not, who will select these leaders? You and your friends? What gives you the right to exclude the majority of your neighbors who might want another person to be mayor? Authoritarian leaders select themselves and reject, usually with force, any other choices. I cannot agree with you that tyrants are preferable to democracies though I agree with the stupidity of many voters' choices.

17 posted on 10/28/2002 3:42:45 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Other than Switzerland no Democracy has ever worked. It always leads to socialism and I would prefer most kings to most mobs monarchy historically has the best record as a form of government( and I speak here of relatively absolute monarchies). Europe declined as they went more Democratic.
18 posted on 10/28/2002 4:19:58 PM PST by weikel
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