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Posted on 10/24/2002 12:02:52 PM PDT by PianoMan
Shep Smith just reported sources say they are "positive" they have the sniper. Please delete this if this is redundant. It didn't look like it was. Thanks!
TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: johnallenmohammed; sniper
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To: BJClinton
Momma, daddy's gonna take me out for some shootin'...oh, I mean drivin' lessons, be back later, don't wait up.
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posted on
10/24/2002 12:31:30 PM PDT
by
Weimdog
To: BJClinton
More from
Fox on how they busted him.
ROCKVILLE, Md. In the end, one of the men arrested in connection with the sniper shootings may have given investigators their best clue.
An ominous call to the sniper task force tip line urged authorities to check out an incident in "Montgomery," triggering an investigative chain that led to the capture of two men, a law enforcement source told The Associated Press on Thursday on condition of anonymity.
The call led investigators from Montgomery, Ala., to Tacoma, Wash., to a darkened rest stop off I-70 in Frederick County, Md., where the two men were taken into custody.
Montgomery Mayor Bobby Bright said a caller to the tip line apparently claimed responsibility for both the sniper shootings and a liquor store robbery in his city in which one woman was killed and another wounded.
Bright said the caller told the tip line representative to contact Montgomery officials if they didn't believe he was responsible for the sniper shootings, which began Oct. 2 and have resulted in 10 deaths.
While reviewing recent shootings in Montgomery, investigators zeroed in on a shooting outside a state liquor store on Sept. 21.
Montgomery Police Chief John Wilson said Thursday that the gun used in Alabama was not the same as the one in the Washington, D.C.-area shootings.
But the law enforcement source told the AP that police found a piece of paper at the scene that bore the fingerprints of John Lee Malvo, one of the men wanted for questioning in connection with the serial shootings.
Police traced Malvo, 17, to a rental home in Tacoma where he once lived with a former soldier named John Allen Muhammad. Muhammad, also known as John Allen Williams, has been identified in several news reports as Malvo's stepfather.
In Tacoma, neighbors told investigators that the former tenants had taken target practice in the backyard.
Pfc. Chris Waters, a Fort Lewis soldier who lives across the street, said he called police after hearing gunshots nearly every day in January.
"It sounded like a high-powered rifle such as an M-16," he said. "Never more than three shots at a time. Pow. Pow. Pow."
FBI agents swept the backyard with metal detectors before carting away a tree stump and other evidence in a U-Haul truck. The stump may have been used for target practice and was being taken to a federal lab for ballistics tests.
Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose announced shortly after midnight Thursday that Muhammad was wanted for questioning in connection with the sniper spree, calling him "armed and dangerous." The chief also complied with a curious request by the sniper to say: "We have caught the sniper like a duck in a noose."
The noose tightened at 1 a.m., when witnesses at the Maryland rest stop called police after they spotted the men sleeping inside one of the cars sought in the investigation a blue 1990 Chevrolet Caprice.
The sniper task force swept in and arrested the men without a struggle.
To: Mixer
Why would it take a suicide mission?
To: mc5cents
Otherwise known as the Department of Education....Oh I'm sorry. That's the Department of Re-DUNCE-dancy. My bad.
To: null and void
Vey series...Wold series, a swell.
To: rintense
Yes, but compare today with the news they arrested someone with any other day there was a killing.
The same thing happened when they had the two guys in the van by the phone. Everyone was in a good mood immediately. When they said it was the wrong guys, the change was instant.
The good news today and in about ten days we should take over the Senate and keep the House and I'll really have a good time.
To: dfwgator
Like A Duck In a Noose
Backwards, it's Nidal -- as in Abu Nidal, right?
To: BJClinton
This will be the picture the lefty press runs from now on. He's definitely a family guy.
To: BJClinton
More from
Fox on how they figured it out.
MONTGOMERY, Ala. A man seen fleeing a deadly liquor store shooting last month has "some very good similarities" to one of two men named in the Washington-area sniper investigation, authorities said Thursday.
Mayor Bobby Bright said a caller to the sniper investigation tip line apparently claimed responsibility for both the sniper shootings and the Sept. 21 shooting outside a state liquor store in Montgomery that left one woman employee dead and another seriously wounded.
The tip-line caller told authorities to contact Montgomery officials if they didn't believe he was responsible for the sniper shootings, which began Oct. 2, Bright said.
Police issued an arrest warrant Wednesday for John Allen Muhammad on a federal weapons charge and said they wanted to question him about the sniper shootings. Montgomery County, Md., Police Chief Charles Moose said Muhammad may be traveling with a juvenile, identified by a law enforcement source as 17-year-old John Lee Malvo.
Bright said a publication found at the scene of the Alabama shooting a magazine about weapons bore a fingerprint of Malvo's. Police then traced Malvo to a home in Tacoma, Wash., that was searched Wednesday by authorities looking into the sniper shootings. Malvo had been living in the home with Muhammad, a source told the AP.
Montgomery police Chief John Wilson said his department was cooperating with the sniper task force.
He stressed that a different caliber gun was used in the liquor store shootings, and authorities had not concluded the shooting was related to the sniper killings.
But he said an officer chased a man fleeing the liquor store shootings, at one point coming within a couple of feet of him, and helped provide a composite sketch. Asked if the person resembled Malvo, he said there were "some very good similarities, yes."
Bright said sniper investigators asked for files on the shooting and evidence, including a bullet found at the scene, and local authorities complied.
"We are fully cooperating, but we have no verification that anything here is related to the crimes in Montgomery County, Md.," Bright said.
Claudine Parker, 52, and Kellie Adams, 24, were locking up the liquor store for the night when they were shot. Parker was killed.
Adams said her back was to the street when a single shot struck her just below the base of her skull. She said the gunman had not approached them.
"I never saw a face. I never saw him, period," Adams told the Montgomery newspaper, adding that police contacted her late Wednesday about a possible connection to the shootings.
Wilson said an officer on patrol heard the shots that night and saw a man rifling through a victim's purse. But the man ran away and the officer couldn't catch him, Wilson said.
To: clintonh8r
Why would it take a suicide mission?Just a hint of sarcasm. I didn't want to add the /sarcasm tag because I didnt want it to be taken that I was being sarcastic about an attack at all. Sometimes things do not translate in TYPE the way you think they will.
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posted on
10/24/2002 12:35:43 PM PDT
by
Mixer
To: cincinnati65
OK, now this is getting too freaky!
To: freebilly
Wold series, a swell.If it's good enough for God, It's good enough for me!
(Doesn't the Bible start with "In the big inning?)...
To: Admin Moderator
You can say that again.
OK
To: dfwgator
Holy sh*t, Mr. Mensa, I think you might be on to something.
74
posted on
10/24/2002 12:38:22 PM PDT
by
Hemlock
To: Mixer
There must be some psycho Christians willing to step up for Suicide/Kamikazi missions in Mecca.......Anyone?That would be the little known sect of Cannonites who find justification for violence in The Book Of Ax....~;o)
To: BJClinton
Yet more from
Fox about their motive.
SEATTLE West Coast investigators are digging into the lives of two men named in connection with 13 sniper attacks in the Washington, D.C., area, searching for clues as to what may have motivated a killing spree.
John Allen Muhammad, 42, one of the men, is a former soldier at Fort Lewis and said to be sympathetic to the Sept. 11 hijackers, The Seattle Times reported Thursday, quoting unidentified federal officials.
He and John Lee Malvo, 17, a Jamaican citizen believed to be his stepson, may have been motivated by anti-American sentiments, the officials said.
Neither was believed to be associated with the Al Qaeda terrorist network, authorities said.
"It appears that they are and have acted on their own," Bellingham Police Chief Randy Carroll said Thursday.
Muhammad converted to Islam and changed his name last year from John Allen Williams, investigators told the Times.
Muhammad had helped provide security for Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan's "Million Man March" in Washington, D.C., according to Leo Dudley, a former Marine who lived a block from Muhammad. National of Islam officials in Chicago had no immediate comment.
Montgomery County, Md., Police Chief Charles Moose, the lead sniper investigator, announced Wednesday that Muhammad was being sought for questioning and called him "armed and dangerous."
Two men were arrested early Thursday after they were found sleeping in their car at a Maryland rest stop, authorities said. Police did not release their names, but a law enforcement source close to the investigation told The Associated Press: "I'm confident that these are indeed the people" sought in the killings.
On Wednesday, federal agents searched the yard at the house in Tacoma where Muhammad once lived. Investigators also combed through Malvo's Bellingham High School student records, reportedly seeking samples of his handwriting.
Muhammad, who was stationed at Fort Lewis in the 1980s and served in the Gulf War, had four children by two marriages that ended in divorce. Both involved bitter custody battles and at least one accusation that he abducted the children, the Times reported. Court records showed no felony record for him in Washington state.
Muhammad was outgoing and "had a good sense of humor. He wasn't a quiet type. He liked to talk. He liked to mingle with people," Carol Williams, his first wife and the mother of his oldest son, told the Times.
She said Muhammad converted to Islam after divorcing her 17 years ago, about the time he joined the Army.
"After he changed his religion, he called and told me what not to feed my child," she said. "I told him as long as he (their son) lived with me, it was up to me."
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer reported that Muhammad and Malvo stayed at a homeless shelter in Bellingham, where Mayor Robert Asmundson said the teen had minor run-ins with police but never was charged with a crime.
Carol Williams said that on one occasion, when their son was in middle school and visited Muhammad in Tacoma, she had to fight a legal battle for the boy's return.
She said Muhammad's second wife, Mildred Green, with whom he had three children, also called her a couple of years ago to tell her Muhammad had abducted their children and to ask for help in getting them back.
Elaina Whitlock, 38, who lived near the family for six years in Tacoma, told the Times that after the divorce from Green, Muhammad was granted weekend visitations but at one point left with the three children.
"Things were going OK with visitations and no one suspected he would take off with them, but then he couldn't have her and he knew it would hurt her if he took the children," Whitlock said. "Her life was her children."
Green was reunited with the children about a year and half ago, Whitlock said.
In the late 1990s, Muhammad provided money to start a karate school, former business partner Felix Strozier told The Associated Press. Muhammad promised to bring students from the local Muslim community, but not enough students came, and the school closed in 1998, Strozier said.
He said he and Muhammad parted on less-than-friendly terms.
"I was honored that he thought enough of me to back me with the school, but then I really got some really ill feelings about him once I had no support," Strozier said.
Muhammad was in excellent shape, former neighbor Dudley said.
"Any time he shook your hand, he would crush it," Dudley told the Times. "He was just country. He was from down South, and the military brought him up here."
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To: clintonh8r
He's definitely a family guy.Yeah, so was Charlie Manson.
Ok, so it was a different kind of "family"
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posted on
10/24/2002 12:40:50 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: ErnBatavia
You can say that again.
To: null and void
And in the midst of the seventh inning, God stretched....
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