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Tempers Flare at Debate [Congressman Jim Moran]
Arlington Connection ^ | 10/23/02 | Brandt Fletcher

Posted on 10/24/2002 4:54:34 AM PDT by chambley1

Tempers Flare at Debate Congressional, board candidates trade accusations at League of Women Voters forum.

Fighting Words

After the debate was over last Thursday, campaign managers for Jim Moran and Scott Tate nearly came to blows outside the Central Library’s auditorium, as an argument over a Moran campaign flier escalated into a partisan shoving match.

Republican Mike Lane, head of the Tate campaign, said that Moran had misused a campaign survey, part of what he said was "a long history" of dishonesty from the incumbent Democrat. In turn, Dan Drummond, Moran’s campaign manager, said that Tate’s supporters were just trying to draw attention away from an inexperienced candidate running a losing campaign.

After insults were exchanged, Lane turned to leave the library, patting Drummond on the back as he left. Drummond responded, "You don’t need to touch me again, Mike." Lane turned, stepped closer to Drummond and again put his hand on Drummond’s shoulder, calling the Moran campaign manager "boy."

Drummond bristled, and the two men appeared on the verge of more dramatic hostilities when another Moran supporter pulled Drummond away.

On Friday, Moran called the incident "unfortunate," but defended Drummond’s actions. "I think [Lane] was deliberately trying to get his goat," Moran said. Such tactics originate with Tate, he said, who was overheard telling Lane, "We’ve got to get Moran to react." Moran suggested that there could be more confrontations leading up to the Nov. 5 election.

"I’ve never been the cool collected type. I grew up on the other side of the tracks," Moran said. "Hopefully I’ve grown up enough not to take the bait."

Lane rejected the notion that he or Tate was intentionally pushing buttons. The altercation was an eruption of tempers rather than a calculated political maneuver, he said.

"I think the intensity of this particular episode was an unplanned reaction to the frustration that the Moran campaign is feeling," he said. "They’ve been getting a ton of bad press and at some point it just reached critical mass for them."

With less than two weeks to election day, tension is rising for many Arlington candidates, and the Central Library was the boiling point for campaign controversies last week, as three sets of candidates showed up for a debate.

The Oct. 17 debate, organized by the League of Women Voters and five other civic organizations, served as a showdown for candidates in the 8th Congressional District, county and school board races.

Tempers flared during the Congressional and County Board debates, and sometimes erupted in candidates trading insults and in one instance, a near scuffle. But audience members said they had come looking for information, not for professional wrestling.

The debate format allowed each candidate to give opening and closing statements, but primarily centered on questions from audience members, questions that ranged from local to international issues, including traffic, taxes and a possible war with Iraq.

But during the Congressional debate, James Moran, the six-term Democratic incumbent, and Republican challenger Scott Tate increasingly addressed each other rather than the questioners from the audience.

Immediately following their debate, the conflict spilled out of the auditorium, as a shoving match ensued between campaign managers for the two candidates. In opening statements, Tate criticized Moran’s position on homeland security, and said he would be more involved with the issue than Moran has been. Ron Crickenberger, the Libertarian party candidate for the Congressional seat, used his opening statement to express his views on handling traffic and terrorism. "In the last year, we’ve arrested 750,000 pot smokers, three terrorists, and no serial snipers," he said. That statistic, he said, reveals a gross misuse of law enforcement resources.

In his opening statement, Moran touched on policy issues, but said he mostly looked forward to responding to whatever concerns the audience would raise.

ALL THREE FOUND common ground on one subject, though, when they rejected the possibility of adding a third lane to I-66 inside the beltway.

"There has to be a much broader approach," said Tate. Crickenberger objected to the proposal on the basis that 100 percent of Northern Virginia residents would be taxed to finance the construction of the extra lanes, while only about 20 percent would use the road. Moran said the real transportation issue is the need for better mass transit. "There are far too many single-occupant vehicles in Northern Virginia," he said.

In closing statements, Crickenberger summarized his political ideology by calling for a return to "individual liberty and personal responsibility." Moran and Tate concluded by criticizing each other’s campaign tactics, each claiming that the opposition had misrepresented his positions and records.

CANDIDATES IGNORED ISSUES, according to some voters in attendance. As the debate progressed, Moran and Tate spent more time addressing each other and less time answering audience questions.

"I’d like to see positive campaigning," said Merwin Liss, an Arlington resident who attended the debate. He had hoped the candidates would stick to the issues and leave the bickering aside. He accused Moran and Tate of "remaining silent about their positions and raising questions about the opponents’ position and motivation and behavior."

Noelle Stettner, a volunteer with the Crickenberger campaign, agreed that Moran and Tate were too focused on criticizing each other, and avoided the issues, unlike the Libertarian. "He’s the only one that actually answered the questions," she said.

Crickenberger’s answers were indeed direct. Asked if he would support the so-called "quiet communities act," a measure which would use government intervention to curb noise from automobiles and airplanes near residential areas, Crickenberger responded that he would support it "no more than I’d support a measure to treat people for hangnails."

Moran fired back that Crickenberger’s answers presented "simplistic solutions to complicated problems."

THAT FIERY TONE continued into the second debate, when Republican challenger Mike Clancy criticized the record of County Board Chair Chris Zimmerman, the two-term Democratic incumbent.

"A parking crisis – that’s his legacy," said Clancy. He went on to criticize taxation policies and a proposed ordinance that would allow the Arlington government to restrict homeowners’ right to cut down certain trees on their property.

"It sounds like my opponent wants to landscape your back yard," he said. Zimmerman defended himself by saying that the actions of one property owner affect the rights of other property owners. For that reason, according to Zimmerman, the county has a right to make certain restrictions.

Clancy’s criticism extended to all members of the board, who he called "the five clones." The all-Democratic board represents the same type of unchecked power that leads to irresponsibility and scandals in the business world, Clancy said. Clancy, who has been endorsed by the municipal employees’ union, criticized the county retirement system. Zimmerman called Clancy’s description "grossly inaccurate."


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: jamesmoran; scotttate

1 posted on 10/24/2002 4:54:34 AM PDT by chambley1
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To: chambley1
Hilarious.

But seriously, re:

< snip > ALL THREE FOUND common ground on one subject, though, when they rejected the possibility of adding a third lane to I-66 inside the beltway. < snip >

I agree with them. Instead, I think we should build a second level to the freeway so it's double-decker from DC to the Beltway. The top lanes can be so-called "Express" lanes, with no regular exits (emergency exits only) from the state line to 495. The bottom lanes can be local lanes, complete with current exits and metro stops.

Since trucks are already banned from this part of I-66, you could have minimal clearance on the lower level so that the top level isn't too high-profile and hideous. And you could have lower weight limits on the top level, as well.

Anybody like my idea?
2 posted on 10/24/2002 5:33:40 AM PDT by LibertyGirl77
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To: chambley1
...I’ve never been the cool collected type. I grew up on the other side of the tracks," Moran said...

Quite an understatement from Jim the brawler.

3 posted on 10/24/2002 6:31:08 AM PDT by GunsareOK
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To: LibertyGirl77
Considering the way people drive in and around DC, and how hairy the commute can be, I think we should minimize the loss of human life by avoiding roads altogether. I suggest that they build a giant rubber band-type slingshot - that way, they can just launch individual commuters from VA to their destinations in DC.

Hey, it's gotta be safer than the roads, right? ;)

4 posted on 10/24/2002 6:40:28 AM PDT by general_re
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To: LibertyGirl77
It's an interesting idea, but Arlington would never go for it. Migrating birds could get confused and crash in to the upper level! And the noise and pollution! No thanks, say the residents of Arlington. Better we add 30 minutes to our commute times (and produce even more pollution, thank you) than create an eyesore and endanger a tree or something.
5 posted on 10/24/2002 7:14:44 AM PDT by vollmond
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To: chambley1
"I’ve never been the cool collected type. I grew up on the other side of the tracks," Moran said. "Hopefully I’ve grown up enough not to take the bait."

This guy is scum. I had always hoped my Congressman would be grown up enough not to beat his wife... or throw young minority children onto the hood of his car (claiming a hold-up yet producing no weapon)... or get into bar brawls... or be elected biggest Hothead in Congress.

Yep, he really deserves the title "Honorable."

6 posted on 10/24/2002 7:59:16 AM PDT by Coop
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