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CBS Reporting that two suspects arrested are not the Sniper!
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Posted on 10/21/2002 11:21:39 AM PDT by chudogg

Sources: Sniper Still At Large

RICHMOND, Va., Oct. 21, 2002

(CBS) Law enforcement officials believe the sniper who has terrorized the Washington D.C. area is still at large, CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart reports.

Stewart said the officials "feel confident" that neither of two men being question in connection with the shootings is the sniper. The men in custody in connection with the seizure of a Plymouth van at a gas station in Richmond, Va., Monday are believed to have made a call to a phone number connected to the sniper case, but they are not thought to be the perpetrators.

Stewart reports that some law enforcement officials speculated that the men may have been involved in some type of extortion scheme related to the sniper murders or some other kind of hoax.

Authorities also confirmed that Saturday night's shooting at a steakhouse outside Richmond was the work of the sniper.

On Monday Richmond police seized a white van parked at a pay phone.

Hanover County Sheriff Stuart Cook said the two were being held for questioning in the attacks that have left nine people dead and three critically wounded since Oct. 2. He refused to describe them as suspects.

The developments came one day after police issued a public plea for the sniper to contact them at a phone number that was part of a message found near the latest shooting scene.

At least one of the people in custody was dragged out of a van parked near an Exxon gas station in the Richmond suburbs. Witnesses said the van was a Plymouth Voyager with a temporary Virginia license.

Keith Underwood, service manager at an Oldsmobile dealership next door, said officers converged on the van and pulled the driver out Monday morning. He said officers were screaming at the person behind the wheel and yanked several times on the door before getting it open.

"They basically surrounded him with their shotguns," said another witness, Pathenia Fields, a title clerk at the car dealer. She said she saw just one man in the van.

Police said they found a note in the woods near the Ponderosa restaurant in Ashland, a few miles (kilometers) north of Richmond, after the latest victim was shot and critically wounded.

Late Sunday, police urged whoever left the note to call them. Early Monday, Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose, who is in charge of the investigation, said authorities were "preparing our response." He refused to elaborate or answer questions.

"To the person who left us a message at the Ponderosa last night, you gave us a telephone number. We do want to talk to you. Call us at the number you provided. Thank you," Moose said.

A law enforcement source close to the investigation told The Associated Press that investigators believe the person who left the message is probably the sniper.

Surgeons removed the bullet from the 37-year-old man shot in Ashland and turned it over to investigators. As in the previous shootings, the victim was felled by one shot.

The victim, whose name was not released, remained in critical condition Monday after six hours of surgery. Doctors were cautiously optimistic but said he would need more surgery.


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: sniper
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To: RAT Patrol
Why bash Moose?

I wonder the same thing. I went to school with him back in 1990...he seemed like a bright, professional guy back then. This is a difficult thing to deal with. I just don't know what he could be doing different under these circumstances.

41 posted on 10/21/2002 11:48:04 AM PDT by TankerKC
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To: My Favorite Headache
Ratings..
42 posted on 10/21/2002 11:48:14 AM PDT by Dog
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To: All
Did you notice the flag decal on the back of that van--it looked like it could have been a Mexican flag. Correct me if I am wrong on this!
43 posted on 10/21/2002 11:48:27 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: Arkinsaw
Unless the guys in the van planted an extortion note at the last shooting trying to cash in.
44 posted on 10/21/2002 11:49:15 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9
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To: TankerKC
I wonder the same thing. I went to school with him back in 1990...he seemed like a bright, professional guy back then. This is a difficult thing to deal with. I just don't know what he could be doing different under these circumstances. Exactly. He needs support from us, not ridicule.
45 posted on 10/21/2002 11:49:31 AM PDT by RAT Patrol
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To: Dog
I'm afraid you may be right.
46 posted on 10/21/2002 11:50:35 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: TankerKC
I tend to agree. I've kind of wondered if he was really up for the job - and still, I think he is in over his head. That being said - what else should he be doing?

Something I always remember that my mom taught me years ago--if "they" think "they" can do any better - then let them.

47 posted on 10/21/2002 11:51:10 AM PDT by MasonGal
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To: Arkinsaw
yet those guys are determined not to be part of it.

That's not what was said. They said neither is the sniper. that doesn't mean they have nothing to do with the case.

48 posted on 10/21/2002 11:51:17 AM PDT by js1138
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To: hsmomx3
I saw a Bush-Cheney election bumper sticker on the bottom bumper. Maybe I'm wrong but that's what it looked like.
There was a circular decal at the top left of the rear window, I thought yellow. There was another bumper sticker on the bottom left of the rear window. Could not make out what either of them said.
49 posted on 10/21/2002 11:51:33 AM PDT by ScholarWarrior
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To: ScholarWarrior
One of the stickers was an NRA sticker.
50 posted on 10/21/2002 11:53:12 AM PDT by RAT Patrol
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Something really weird just happened by my house. I live in an area full of neighborhoods and considered one of the better parts of Orlando.
I was just outside sweeping the front patio and I heard a gunshot! It was very loud and could not have been a car backfiring or a firework.I ran inside and have seen no police or any other activity afterwards.
51 posted on 10/21/2002 11:53:13 AM PDT by inflorida
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To: TankerKC
"Why bash Moose?"

I think in the beginning (which seems so long ago) his press appearances were too emotional. People jumped on that, there's also the need for a target of blame, and a little ethnic hostility from some corners.

52 posted on 10/21/2002 11:54:16 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: ARCADIA
Now, why wouldn't the police give the note to their dogs that have the sniper's scent. The dogs could verify who it came from.

The night of the Ashland shooting there were reports here that the dogs did follow a scent from the woods into Richmond.

Thoughts here went to whether the dogs were following gun powder scent (I think, I am no gun expert). Perhaps they followed the scent from the note.

If I remember correctly this was later that night or into the ealry hours of the next day.

CNN now reports that both subjects in custody are undocumented workers, one from Mexico, one from Guatamala.

53 posted on 10/21/2002 11:54:51 AM PDT by hergus
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To: inflorida
That happened to me once in Wichita, KS. It turned out to be a drive-by shooting 2 houses down.
54 posted on 10/21/2002 11:54:54 AM PDT by RAT Patrol
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To: ScholarWarrior
I didn't see that as the pictures on the news apeared to focus on the left side of the back window which is where I saw the flag decal.
55 posted on 10/21/2002 11:55:05 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: blam
True Moose is not running the show...but Moose is not stupid either. I don't understand the bashing that is going on towards him. I think Moose has done a good job with the pressure he is under. I seriously doubt...Moose is in charge. Strike that...we know Moose is not in charge.
56 posted on 10/21/2002 11:56:15 AM PDT by Lucas1
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To: ScholarWarrior
Bumper stickers probably don't me jack on a van with temp tags ---- It probably means the previous owner was hispanic and supported Bush.
57 posted on 10/21/2002 11:58:10 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: hsmomx3
It could be. I couldn't make it out. I thought I saw the B/C sticker when they were pulling the truck onto the tow.
58 posted on 10/21/2002 11:58:21 AM PDT by ScholarWarrior
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To: ScholarWarrior
as of this moment i've decided to turn off the newschannels, their frenzied and breathless updates are meaningless and add up to one big ZERO....like dogs chasing their tails. i'm going to rely on FR for any important developments.
59 posted on 10/21/2002 11:59:18 AM PDT by contessa machiaveli
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To: KSCITYBOY
You're right, of course, but it passes the time as we wait for the real news.
60 posted on 10/21/2002 11:59:40 AM PDT by ScholarWarrior
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