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CBS Reporting that two suspects arrested are not the Sniper!
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Posted on 10/21/2002 11:21:39 AM PDT by chudogg

Sources: Sniper Still At Large

RICHMOND, Va., Oct. 21, 2002

(CBS) Law enforcement officials believe the sniper who has terrorized the Washington D.C. area is still at large, CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart reports.

Stewart said the officials "feel confident" that neither of two men being question in connection with the shootings is the sniper. The men in custody in connection with the seizure of a Plymouth van at a gas station in Richmond, Va., Monday are believed to have made a call to a phone number connected to the sniper case, but they are not thought to be the perpetrators.

Stewart reports that some law enforcement officials speculated that the men may have been involved in some type of extortion scheme related to the sniper murders or some other kind of hoax.

Authorities also confirmed that Saturday night's shooting at a steakhouse outside Richmond was the work of the sniper.

On Monday Richmond police seized a white van parked at a pay phone.

Hanover County Sheriff Stuart Cook said the two were being held for questioning in the attacks that have left nine people dead and three critically wounded since Oct. 2. He refused to describe them as suspects.

The developments came one day after police issued a public plea for the sniper to contact them at a phone number that was part of a message found near the latest shooting scene.

At least one of the people in custody was dragged out of a van parked near an Exxon gas station in the Richmond suburbs. Witnesses said the van was a Plymouth Voyager with a temporary Virginia license.

Keith Underwood, service manager at an Oldsmobile dealership next door, said officers converged on the van and pulled the driver out Monday morning. He said officers were screaming at the person behind the wheel and yanked several times on the door before getting it open.

"They basically surrounded him with their shotguns," said another witness, Pathenia Fields, a title clerk at the car dealer. She said she saw just one man in the van.

Police said they found a note in the woods near the Ponderosa restaurant in Ashland, a few miles (kilometers) north of Richmond, after the latest victim was shot and critically wounded.

Late Sunday, police urged whoever left the note to call them. Early Monday, Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose, who is in charge of the investigation, said authorities were "preparing our response." He refused to elaborate or answer questions.

"To the person who left us a message at the Ponderosa last night, you gave us a telephone number. We do want to talk to you. Call us at the number you provided. Thank you," Moose said.

A law enforcement source close to the investigation told The Associated Press that investigators believe the person who left the message is probably the sniper.

Surgeons removed the bullet from the 37-year-old man shot in Ashland and turned it over to investigators. As in the previous shootings, the victim was felled by one shot.

The victim, whose name was not released, remained in critical condition Monday after six hours of surgery. Doctors were cautiously optimistic but said he would need more surgery.


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: sniper
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1 posted on 10/21/2002 11:21:39 AM PDT by chudogg
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To: chudogg
Duh! Common sense would have told you that as soon as Moose was relaying messages to the sniper at the 11 am. press conference AFTER the van guys were in custody.
2 posted on 10/21/2002 11:24:14 AM PDT by frmrda
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To: chudogg
Guys with a white van with a rack on it that make a call to a phone number supposedly set up by the sniper who is supposed to be in a white van with a rack on it and yet those guys are determined not to be part of it.

This just gets weirder and weirder.
3 posted on 10/21/2002 11:25:05 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: chudogg
Well, duh. The guy(s) committing these murders are not that stupid. I expect we will have another shooting before too long. Just the real snipers' way of rubbing LE nose in it.
4 posted on 10/21/2002 11:25:14 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: chudogg
So, what's the deal? Do we have a couple of guys who were stupid enough to try to cash in on the sniper by leaving a note demanding money?

Is that what this is all about?

5 posted on 10/21/2002 11:25:47 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: chudogg
I'll bet the guys in the van had to change their undees after the cops had them surrounded........
6 posted on 10/21/2002 11:27:13 AM PDT by b4its2late
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To: Peach
Copy of article is here...ping
7 posted on 10/21/2002 11:27:49 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: chudogg
I bet those 2 guys were scared whitless..
8 posted on 10/21/2002 11:28:34 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: b4its2late
HA, you were thinking along the same lines as I...
9 posted on 10/21/2002 11:28:56 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: chudogg
Moose is an inept, brainless idiot who should step down and let real law enforcement officials handle the case.

But the NAACP crowd will scream racism at the mere mention of my suggestion.

10 posted on 10/21/2002 11:29:18 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Arkinsaw; Dog Gone
CNN around 1 pm reported these 2 in custody were running a scam on the cops for money...

Now how is this for a theory.....Cops think they are in contact with the snipers .........but it only turns out to be these 2 in custody.....running a scam.

Sniper is still out there watching this circus unfold .......and getting a kick out of it..

He will answer them today.........not with a call .....but with another shooting.

11 posted on 10/21/2002 11:30:39 AM PDT by Dog
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To: chudogg
My theory...

The police are not telling us that they actually did recover the bullet from the last victim. It did not match the other bullets. They knew something was not right...because at the same time there was a note left asking for money. It was obvious it was not the sniper. Moose played his cards exactly right last night...set these guys up to be busted.

The real killer(s) remains at large..laughing all the while.

Meanwhile everyone on the internet last night was making fun of Moose and calling him stupid. Looks to me like Moose knew exactly what he was doing last night...

12 posted on 10/21/2002 11:32:13 AM PDT by Lucas1
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To: chudogg
The perps are certanly getting yucks out of this.

I've had a sick feeling all day that the police running down a dead end street, again.

13 posted on 10/21/2002 11:33:11 AM PDT by oyez
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To: chudogg
believed to have made a call to a phone number connected to the sniper case, but they are not thought to be the perpetrators.

Wrong number? Does this mean the LEOs are arresting anyone who calls the designated number? Quick phone trace followed by quick arrest? I'm dazed and confused.

14 posted on 10/21/2002 11:33:16 AM PDT by PoisedWoman
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To: Dog
Just heard on the news break in the Rush show that the sniper note was 'pinned' to a tree behind the Ponderosa Restaurant.
15 posted on 10/21/2002 11:33:30 AM PDT by blam
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To: Lucas1
I thought the ATF reported at 11 am the bullet was a match for the priors.
16 posted on 10/21/2002 11:33:48 AM PDT by ScholarWarrior
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To: chudogg
I keep getting the feeling that this whole sniper episode is an example of our own national evil washing back up on shore...and that, in addition to nailing this guy and dropping him into a big blender set on puree, this episode needs to bring about some introspection.

Did our media creat this monster?

17 posted on 10/21/2002 11:34:31 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Why bash Moose?
18 posted on 10/21/2002 11:34:42 AM PDT by RAT Patrol
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To: ScholarWarrior
I had not heard that...if that is the case then it would appear these guys placed the note afterwards? Waiting on the sniper to strike again? They had it planned out that they would leave a note at the scene of the next killing?
19 posted on 10/21/2002 11:35:00 AM PDT by Lucas1
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To: Lucas1
It was announced today that the bullet does match the other sniper victim bullets. Also, if the bullet didn't match, it wouldn't necessarily mean that it was a different shooter -- just a different gun.
20 posted on 10/21/2002 11:35:15 AM PDT by alnick
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