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The GOP Admits Defeat
NRO ^ | October 17, 2002 | Byron York

Posted on 10/17/2002 8:40:11 AM PDT by gubamyster

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1 posted on 10/17/2002 8:40:11 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: gubamyster
I wonder what happens when Talent takes his Senate Seat this November?
2 posted on 10/17/2002 8:41:55 AM PDT by rface
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There's a possibility that a new judiciary committee could be empaneled, but someone wrote that the senate must approve a rules resolution first. It'd be an amazing thing to see three senators from Missouri in the senate at the same time--I wonder if this is a possibility ?
3 posted on 10/17/2002 8:47:54 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: gubamyster
Two words: RECESS APPOINTMENTS
4 posted on 10/17/2002 8:56:23 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I think enough feet will be dragged in the certification process in MO that we're only talking about a few days before January 3. And, no, there can't be three senators in the duration. Carnie's out the instant Talent's in, whenever that comes to pass.
5 posted on 10/17/2002 9:01:08 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: VRWCmember
And to those who would say it is hypocritical for us to advocate the use of recess appointments when we criticized bill clinton for doing the "same thing" (it wasn't even close to the same thing), consider the critical difference: clinton appointee Lee was given a hearing, and voted and REJECTED by the FULL SENATE, not denied a hearing and vote by the judiciary committee. A recess appointment to fill a vacancy with an appointee that has been rejected by the Senate is nothing short of contempt for the Constitution.

On the other hand, for the judiciary committee to refuse to allow qualified nominees to receive a fair hearing and a vote by the entire Senate, out of obeisance to the special interest puppetmasters of the democrats on the committee, shows equal contempt for the Constitution.

So, there you have it: bill clinton demonstrated his contempt for the Constitution and the advice and consent process, and now his judiciary committee comrads in the democrat Socialist party are demonstrating their equal contempt for the Constitution and the advice and consent process by refusing to allow it.

6 posted on 10/17/2002 9:07:51 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember
"Two words: RECESS APPOINTMENTS"

Not enough, I want real, lifetime appointed conservative judges that will not turn the Constitution into toilet paper. That means put the Democrats into the minority with the November 2002 election!
7 posted on 10/17/2002 9:22:47 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: gubamyster
The Senate may be powerless, but we're not!

VOTE!

8 posted on 10/17/2002 9:25:38 AM PDT by Redbob
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Recess appointments are the answer but Bush doesn't have the backbone necessary. After all, if he were to do something like that would Ted Kennedy still be his pal?
9 posted on 10/17/2002 9:25:54 AM PDT by caltrop
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To: RicocheT
It's best, of course, to retake the Senate but Bush could have made recess appointments of those nominees not required to give up lifetime positions. McConnell and Estrada come immediately to mind. After the year's appointment they'd then come up for a vote and we could go from there. My guess is that, after a year on the bench and in the glare of publicity, they'd be tough to beat.
10 posted on 10/17/2002 9:30:27 AM PDT by caltrop
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To: Cyber Liberty
So...suppose our great Governor of Missouri drags his feet providing his (what ever it is) approval to the voting results...Talent is elected but Carnahan's still there.
11 posted on 10/17/2002 9:35:54 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: gubamyster
Here's my question:

Why is it that Democrats and leftists can get their agenda items passed when there's a Republican in the White House, or when there's a Republican in the White House and a Republican House of Representatives, but the GOP cannot get anything done unless it has control of the Presidency and both houses of Congress?!

I don't understand.

(steely)

P.S. Don't worry, I'm perfectly well aware that they won't get their agenda through even after they get both houses of Congress.

12 posted on 10/17/2002 9:37:33 AM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Exactly. Technically, Talent's not elected until he/she's certified the winner, and this is what the MO Guv intends to gum up.
13 posted on 10/17/2002 9:41:05 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: Cyber Liberty
Another reason his administration is so damn popular here in the Show Me.
14 posted on 10/17/2002 10:25:01 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: gubamyster
There is a telling phrase in this article. It calls the action by Minority Leader Trent ("Vacant") Lott a "small and pathetic gesture." That sums up Lott's whole career as a "leader" in Congress.

I am predicting that the Republicans will take back the Senate. If so, their first act should be to remove Lott from position and put in a real leader as Majority Leader.

Congressman Billybob

This column is based on the fine work by FReepers in a thread on FR. Click for "Ballistics and Bullsh*t"

Click for "Til Death Do Us Part."

Click for "to Restore Trust in America"

15 posted on 10/17/2002 11:16:24 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: Cyber Liberty
It is not the business of the Missouri Governor (who is a Democrat) to certify the results of the 5 November election. That task belongs the Secretary of State, who is a Republican. The Governor may want to "gum up that process," but the laws of Missouri don't give him that oppoprtunity.

Congressman Billybob

This column is based on the fine work by FReepers in a thread on FR. Click for "Ballistics and Bullsh*t"

Click for "Til Death Do Us Part."

Click for "to Restore Trust in America"

16 posted on 10/17/2002 11:19:31 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Didn't the Senate completely reconfigure over a weekend when Jeffords jumped?
17 posted on 10/17/2002 11:22:49 AM PDT by Deb
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To: Congressman Billybob
If so, their first act should be to remove Lott from position and put in a real leader as Majority Leader.

Amen. But will they do it? Unfortunately, Lott is a perfect representative of many in his party.


18 posted on 10/17/2002 11:23:00 AM PDT by mlo
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To: Congressman Billybob
I read that the Governor has a hand in the certification process.

I hope you're right about this one.

19 posted on 10/17/2002 11:32:45 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: Deb
If it did, it was because of the courtesy extended by the outgoing GOP majority. Don't expect the same from the Dem's.
20 posted on 10/17/2002 11:42:25 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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