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Venezuela's Chavez: UN "outdated body" condemns use of military action to impose peace
yahoo.com ^ | Oct 16,2002 - 12:01 PM ET | PETER W. MAYER, AP

Posted on 10/17/2002 1:40:28 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

ROME - Labeling the United Nations an "outdated body," Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez contended Wednesday that the organization was unable to solve the world's problems.

His denunciation came while addressing the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization, a Rome-based agency which was celebrating World Food Day.

"The U.N. has become an outdated body, an anachronism. It doesn't respond to the challenges of the world," Chavez said during a one-hour-long speech.

The World Summit on Sustainable Development in Johannesburg, South Africa in September was an example of the United Nation's shortcomings, according to Chavez.

World leaders, he said, had failed to commit themselves to the recommendations made by experts on how to safeguard the environment.

Chavez, who was in Italy as part of a four-nation tour in Europe, also condemned the use of military action to solve international conflicts.

"Peace is not something you impose with bombs, threats and invasion, but you achieve it with love, justice and dignity," he said.

He appeared to be referring to the U.S.-led military campaign last year which toppled the Taliban regime in Afghanistan, and pressure by the United States and Britain on the United Nations to authorize military force against Iraq if it does not comply with demands to allow inspections for weapons of mass destruction.

Chavez, whose left-wing government has proposed land redistribution reforms, blamed neo-liberal, free market policies for the "murderous hurricane of inequality which is the scourge of the world."

"Our continent (South America) has received one of the largest injections of neo-liberalism, injections of poison," he said.

Later, talking to reporters, Chavez also spoke of the situation in Venezuela, the world's fifth-largest exporter of oil, but where 80 percent of its people live in poverty, inflation is surging and the army is restless.

He again rejected calls by the opposition for him to step down and call early elections.

Opposition business and labor leaders have called for a general strike to start on Oct. 21 in a bid to paralyze Venezuela.

Chavez has visited France and after Italy will go to Britain and Norway.


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"Peace is not something you impose with bombs, threats and invasion, but you achieve it with love, justice and dignity," he said.


Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez embraces a parrot wearing his trademark red beret in Caracas, October 13, 2002. Chavez, ignoring renewed opposition pressure for him to resign six months after surviving a coup, led hundreds of thousands of supporters in a big show of strength for his self-proclaimed revolution. REUTERS/Kimberly White


World Photos - Reuters Wed Oct 9,10:20 PM ET Thousands of Venezuelans protest against President Hugo Chavez at Bolivar avenue in Caracas, October 10, 2002. Clamoring for immediate elections, tens of thousands of Venezuelans marched through the capital in the biggest show of protest against leftist Chavez since he survived a brief coup in April. REUTERS/Jose Miguel Gomez

Hugo Chavez - Venezuela

1 posted on 10/17/2002 1:40:28 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
UN "outdated body"

When the guy is right, he is right! The UN belongs to the dustbin of history. Let them go love themselves

2 posted on 10/17/2002 2:01:54 AM PDT by eclectic
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To: eclectic
I have to agree with Chavez on the UN. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
3 posted on 10/17/2002 2:11:18 AM PDT by meenie
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I guess they were expecting to all be rich overnight when they voted Senor Redistribution in. Now they're getting to know what life is like under Chavez' hero, Fidel.
4 posted on 10/17/2002 2:18:02 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
Now they're getting to know what life is like under Chavez' hero, Fidel.

Bump!

5 posted on 10/17/2002 2:22:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: meenie; eclectic
September 12, 2002 - President's Remarks at the United Nations General Assembly***The conduct of the Iraqi regime is a threat to the authority of the United Nations, and a threat to peace. Iraq has answered a decade of U.N. demands with a decade of defiance. All the world now faces a test, and the United Nations a difficult and defining moment. Are Security Council resolutions to be honored and enforced, or cast aside without consequence? Will the United Nations serve the purpose of its founding, or will it be irrelevant?***
6 posted on 10/17/2002 2:36:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
yeah, chavez uses 'love, respect and dignity' to shoot at mobs protesting his rule.
7 posted on 10/17/2002 2:40:46 AM PDT by mmmmmmmm....... donuts
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HELP me out please. I have been volunteered to give a half hour talk on the UN "System". I need a heirachy chart showing votes and members.

The UN's own website skews the picture, charting it sideways, even though it is a classic vertical organization just like USSR and ComChina (which is a similarity I may mention).

A search so far has been illuminating and I get a few kooky sites out there: A horoscope chart of the UN !! It reads the Israeli -- PLO confict too - its a classic:

"The Israel/Palestine conflict is an ideal place to observe this Aries/Libra axis. Both sides want an ‘identity’ in their respective states and homeland. Both are aggressive and martial, yet peace is still only a distant possibility. They both want to maintain autonomous cultures, yet there is a great synthesis of cultures going on in many western nations. This is related to Libra being prominent in the planetary horoscope at this time.

"The Capricorn/Cancer axis is also strong with the Jewish Race ruled by Capricorn, and of course Cancer, with the homelands for both nations. Arafat is Cancer rising with Venus and Pluto conjunct the ascendant"

8 posted on 10/17/2002 2:51:07 AM PDT by rocknotsand
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To: mmmmmmmm....... donuts
Chavez: Colombian Rebel Contact 'Humanitarian'-denies collaborating with FARC*** The four journalists who presented the video, Patricia Poleo, Ibeyise Pacheco, Marianella Salazar and Martha Colomina, said it showed the Chavez government was collaborating with the rebels behind the back of the Colombian government. Colombian newspapers on Thursday prominently reported the presentation of the video and Colombia's ambassador to Caracas, German Bula, said his government was evaluating its contents.

The four journalists, who have fiercely criticized Chavez and have also denounced what they say is a government campaign to silence them, said they had received the video from disgruntled officers within the Venezuelan military. Pacheco, who did not identify the source of the tape, said Venezuela's armed forces "want nothing to do with Colombian guerrillas."***

Venezuelans Protest Kidnappings (Chavez suspends gun licenses--threats to jail militiamen)*** Ranchers living along the country's remote 1,400-mile border with Colombia face the constant threat of kidnapping and extortion by Colombia's leftist guerrillas who can cross the border. Common criminals and gangs often cooperate with rebels.

Earlier this year cattlemen proposed forming private militias to fend off local criminals and rebels from neighboring Colombia. The idea was abandoned as President Hugo Chavez suspended the issuance of new gun licenses and threatened to jail would-be militiamen. ***

9 posted on 10/17/2002 2:53:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: rocknotsand
Maybe something here
10 posted on 10/17/2002 3:15:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I CAN'T VOTE.

PLEASE, HELP TAKE BACK THE SENATE.
IT'S FOR THE PUPPIES!

TakeBackCongress.org

A resource for conservatives who want a Republican majority in the Senate

11 posted on 10/17/2002 6:44:28 AM PDT by ffrancone
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To: *Latin_America_List
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/bump-list
12 posted on 10/17/2002 6:54:14 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Labeling the United Nations an "outdated body," Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez contended..."

It seems we're on the same page.

13 posted on 10/17/2002 7:43:59 AM PDT by dixiechick2000
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To: mmmmmmmm....... donuts
Chavez is using the country's revenues to help the poor, redistributing the land giving the it to Venezuelans and helping to support neighbors so they will not be indebted to U.S. companies. Wow! Social programs that care about the average person and raise the living standard of Latin America...defying the illegal embargo against Cuba...uh oh, like that Christian Robertson said, we should take this guy out before others get the wild idea that they should be treated with dignity! Try doing your research instead to listening to monopolistic media outlets.
14 posted on 09/16/2005 8:54:31 AM PDT by long_live_the_revolution
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15 posted on 09/16/2005 8:57:14 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: long_live_the_revolution

"defying the illegal embargo against Cuba"

Say again?
Cuba, who had nuclear missiles aimed at uis in the 60's?
Teh same communist rat hole Cuba?
Why do you say the embargo is illegal?
Do you think Cuba is a paradise?


16 posted on 09/16/2005 9:05:11 AM PDT by Darksheare (There is a Possum in the works.)
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To: long_live_the_revolution

Well?
You going to respond to ny questions?


17 posted on 09/16/2005 9:29:05 AM PDT by Darksheare (There is a Possum in the works.)
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To: long_live_the_revolution

Hello?
Anyone home?

"Try doing your research instead to listening to monopolistic media outlets."

You mean the DEMOCRAT run media outlets?
No, we don't listen to CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS..


18 posted on 09/16/2005 9:43:41 AM PDT by Darksheare (There is a Possum in the works.)
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To: Darksheare
Cats with guns? Are you serious? Come on! Is anyone home over there???
When I say monopolistic media outlets, let me clarify for the weak minded. When you read a story on any situation you need to check multiple news sources outside this country. In case you are unaware, which I suspect you are, these news corporations are privately owned. CBS, NBC, ABC, whatever, it's all the same. Do you not agree that U.S. actions are dictated by big business? Everyone in America serves the interests of U.S. monopolies and to think that one can reach another conclusion proves your own ignorance about the situation. And yes, under international law, the embargo is illegal. It has been so for many years with it's only backers being the U.S. and Israel. About the nuclear missiles during the so called Cuban missile crisis, you should probably do your homework on that too. I guess it was OK to point nukes at Moscow when the U.S. placed them in turkey at the height of the Cold War. Apparently nuclear weapons are the only deterrent to U.S. monopolies invading other countries, plundering there riches in the name of freedom. And, I bet, you do not even recognize that the U.S. is the biggest terror sponsor in the world. Killing millions of Latin Americans in the name of free market policies. Oh, that Castro is evil, right? I have been to Cuba and the hardships they face are a direct result of the Helms-Burton act. It's OK for the U.S. to withhold medical supplies from the people of Cuba, but America says they are punishing Castro and not his people, right? Despite everything that U.S. imperialism has imposed on Cuba, health care is free. Along with education. You bad mouth Castro when Cuba boasts a population that is 70% college educated? And this is a so called third world country? I don't remember the last time Cuba sent an army to terrorize it's neighbors. The only army they send is an army of doctors, like the ones that serve though out the world and without asking for anything in return. My father was in Algeria in the 60's, when Cuba sent over 50,000 doctors to help with the medical crisis they were dealing with at the time. Castro IS evil! Helping the poor, how deplorable. Why don't you go back to watching the O'Riley Factor or any of those other media conglomerates, for that matter.
19 posted on 09/16/2005 3:40:15 PM PDT by long_live_the_revolution
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To: long_live_the_revolution; Americanwolf; MikeinIraq; King Prout; Monkey Face; darkwing104; ...

Nice long rant there.
And yes, cats with guns.

"When I say monopolistic media outlets, let me clarify for the weak minded."

Speaking about yourself merely gets us bored.

" In case you are unaware, which I suspect you are, these news corporations are privately owned."

Yeah, so?
They're leftwing wingnuts who spread the talking points of the DNC in case you didn't notice.
I point you to Dan Rather and the infamous forgeries of the Killian memos.

"Do you not agree that U.S. actions are dictated by big business?"

No, your premise is false.
The media arrogantly assumes they are the political majority, the faked reports they keep getting caught doing ala Jaysun Blair should tell you something.

"Everyone in America serves the interests of U.S. monopolies and to think that one can reach another conclusion proves your own ignorance about the situation."

No, your statement here merely proves how you've bought into the bolshoi comrade.

"About the nuclear missiles during the so called Cuban missile crisis, you should probably do your homework on that too."

Yeah?
We stuck missiles in Turkey IN RESPONSE, idiot.

"Apparently nuclear weapons are the only deterrent to U.S. monopolies invading other countries, plundering there riches in the name of freedom."

Plundering?
Source?
Proof?
You have none for that.

"And, I bet, you do not even recognize that the U.S. is the biggest terror sponsor in the world."

Really?
How so?
Again, do you have proof?
Gimme a source or shut your pie hole.

"Killing millions of Latin Americans in the name of free market policies."

Here we go, free market kills!
Arise ye russian people!
Buddy, get off your Che Guevera methane emission kick and open your eyes.
Communism does not work.
Communism has killed more people than any 'capitalist' venture ever has.

"Despite everything that U.S. imperialism has imposed on Cuba, health care is free."
U.S. Imperialism?
Dude, you spout more talking points than Terry McAuliffe did.
You're on the wrong website, and I'm certain you are in the wrong country.
Do yourself a favor, buy a plane ticket and head to Cuba if you are so certain it is a paradise.
Once you are there, criticize something El Jefe does.


"Why don't you go back to watching the O'Riley Factor or any of those other media conglomerates, for that matter."

Sorry, I don't watch the leftwing media.
I get my news from qide ranging sources, and cross check it here.
CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC and the rest of the alphabet DNC propaganda wings can kiss my butt.
Okay troll, times up.
Pave live.


20 posted on 09/16/2005 3:56:58 PM PDT by Darksheare (There is a Possum in the works.)
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