Posted on 10/15/2002 12:31:51 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
Anyone with half a brain, knows that this a CIA Black Bag Job, to keep the economy off the front page till election time. Ask Maxine Waters.
Or, It is some Angry white male, NRA member.
56 posted on 10/15/02 4:41 AM Pacific by hobbes1
There is some from the 223, but it is over quickly. If the shooter is in some concealment, such as between cars or buildings, not many people would be in line to see.
This latest shot was to the head and at night....even at 100-125 yards, not to bad of a shot.(how many of the others were to the head?)--porte de morte
Seems pretty easy if it's just a matter of putting a red dot on somebody's head and squeezing off a round.
After reading more about the area that the shooting occured in last night, it was described as well lighted many times.
I guess living up here in a remote suburban area, I'm used to being in the dark in more than one sense of the word.
Yes, that too. Ironic isn't it that all this glaring light was provided for the safety of the citizens? Ironic. In the bush, you can see for miles, it's never completely dark in the Arctic. Why would someone stand under a parking lot light or a wall-pack light when surrounded by darkness?
Suicide? By the perp(s) you mean, I hope:-)
I would think if Al Qaeda, they will take others with them to Allah and the 72 virgins when they go.
Correct, LEOs as an enabler.
Maybe what I should have said instead of "small plate" is "keep 'em in the black", (or about 6"), in an NRA SRM-whatever target that's used for 100yd Military Bolt Action matches. "Small plate" is better for a couple of reasons, mainly 'cause that's something everyone understands.
When I shoot in these matches, I'll shoot fifty rounds plus maybe five sight-in shots. Do I put most of them in the black? Yes, on a good day. Have I ever put them all in the black? Never. Highest score I've ever shot is 260-something, which puts me near the 50th percentile of people who participate in these matches at my club. It puts me I dunno, I'd bet in the top 25th percentile in a CMP match which is a better cross section of average shooters, depending on who shows up.
Bottom line? If I were drafted and sent to Iraq to do to Saddam what these guys have been doing in Washington, I WOULDN'T BE EVEN CLOSE TO 100% RELIABLE, ESPECIALLY UNDER PRESSURE, IN BAD WEATHER, IN A HOSTILE ENVIRONMNET.
That's the standard of marksmanship that applies in my house as well, not "Did I once hit a prarie dog at 300 yards", but "What can I consistently, reliably, and predictably hit at 100 (or 150) yards in the worst conditions and circumstances if my life depends on it?"
Answer: This dessert plate I'm eating my sandwich off of now at lunch. That's my answer and I'm sticking to it.
And I daresay if these guys are better riflemen than me (which hasn't been proven, BTW, one account of last nite's shooting was that one of them got out of a car and shot the poor lady from 30 yards) it's because they've had training and practice.
Nothing personal my friend, but your statement illustrates the education curve that's involved here. As a matter of fact there's a great deal more involved that just some red dot.
Have someone take you shooting sometime and give it a try.
But the more successes this guy racks up, the less and less luck has anything to do with it and then skill, practice, and maybe training are the defining factors.
and,
#29 Lends credence to the Al Queda "wave" of terror theory.
I hope we're wrong but, at least, we're on the same sheet of music.
For the many interested Freepers that lack experience in this category, a few specific details on the laser/markmanship skills required would be a really big help.
Thanks.
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