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Mandela picks Iraq over U.S.
National Post ^ | October 11 2002 | R.W. Johnson

Posted on 10/11/2002 4:40:23 PM PDT by knighthawk

DURBAN - In an extraordinary twist to the current tensions between the United States and Iraq, former South African president (and Nobel Peace Prize winner) Nelson Mandela has not only sided strongly against President George W. Bush, but appears on the point of being recruited to a stratagem by Saddam Hussein to block U.S. military intervention.

Mandela has uttered stronger and stronger statements critical of Bush. Originally he attempted to telephone the U.S. President to communicate his views, but Bush did not take his calls, so Mandela phoned ex-president George Bush Sr. to complain about his son and ask for his criticisms to be passed on. When this failed to move Bush Jr., Mandela declared the U.S. threat of pre-emptive war to bring about regime change in Iraq meant that the United States, not Iraq, was now "a danger to world peace." He followed this up by announcing that "some people" were saying that the United States was flouting the United Nations' authority because Kofi Annan, the UN Secretary-General, was a black man.

Last week Mandela went further still, no longer putting such allegations in the mouths of "some people," but openly charging that the Bush administration was acting out of racist and white supremacist motives in not "obeying" Kofi Annan. "No country, however powerful it may be, is entitled to act outside the UN. When UN secretaries-general were white we never had the question of any country ignoring the United Nations, but now that we have got black secretaries-general like Boutros Boutros-Ghali and Kofi Annan certain countries that believe in white supremacy are ignoring the UN for racist reasons."

At the same time, Mandela has declared himself willing to serve on a panel of "12 wise men" proposed by Saddam Hussein to oversee the UN inspectors, provided this plan finds acceptance with the UN. The panel is quite clearly intended to create a supra-national body that will interpose itself between Iraq and possible Anglo-American intervention. Quite clearly, the idea would be to pack the panel with personalities likely to oppose U.S. action. Already Saddam has mentioned ex-president Jimmy Carter as a possible member, clearly in anticipation that Carter would share Al Gore's critical attitude towards the Bush position.

Moreover, Saddam is hoping to push onto such a panel figures whom he can covertly influence or control. One such is former president Kenneth Kaunda of Zambia. Kaunda, who progressively ran the Zambian economy into the ground during his 28 years in office, also ran seriously short of dollars by the end and Saddam stepped in to provide aid. Kaunda's friendship with Saddam blossomed as Kaunda discovered that they shared the same birthday, and was then afforded a diplomatic coup when Saddam released a British prisoner, Daphne Parish, to him -- allowing Kaunda to present her back to a grateful Britain. Kaunda happily had one of the main streets in Lusaka, Zambia's capital, renamed as Saddam Hussein Boulevard.

Naturally, Saddam's leverage with Kaunda increased immensely after he fell from power in 1993. Kaunda, suddenly bereft of the state patronage and funds he had relied on, needed Saddam's subventions all the more. In return he has been a frequent, albeit somewhat gloomy, attendee at state functions in Baghdad. Naturally, in putting forward Kaunda's name as one of the "wise men" Saddam makes much of his role in supporting the cause of African freedom: There is no mention of these ties which would make it extremely hard to imagine Kaunda taking any other side but Saddam's.

Mandela's case is more complex. He shares the general Third World nervousness at the new doctrine of "regime change" -- for if the United States is to start deposing Third World dictators on general principle, many of Mandela's friends and donors would be at risk. In the run-up to the 1994 election in South Africa, Mandela raised prodigious sums of money for his African National Congress -- including from such undemocratic regimes as Libya, Saudi Arabia, Suharto's Indonesia -- and Saddam's Iraq.

Moreover, South Africa's apartheid regime had sold Iraq hundreds of thousands of giant 155mm howitzer shells in the 1980s, big enough to contain poison gas or chemical/bio-weapons. Saddam probably still has many of these and unlike his Scud missiles, they are not vulnerable to being shot down by Patriot anti-missile missiles. Once Mandela came in, further such arms deals were done, including -- or so strong rumour within the South African military community has it -- a shipment of depleted uranium in 1995 which, while unusable for the construction of nuclear bombs, could be used to give extreme penetrative power to projectiles. This relationship was consolidated by a series of oil deals from which there was generally a rake-off to ANC party funds.

All of which means that the United States is unlikely to pay much heed to Mandela's criticisms, let alone to entertain the "12 wise men" proposal. Its use would, rather, be to embarrass the United States, to win sympathy for Iraq throughout the Third World, to strengthen the pro-peace camp in the European Union and perhaps also appeal to black Americans among whom Mandela remains a magic name.


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KEYWORDS: anc; bush; iraq; kaunda; kennethkaunda; kofiannan; nationalpost; nelsonmandela; saddamhussein; us; zambia
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To: Rye
No country, however powerful it may be, is ENTITLED to act outside the U.N." Mandela

Entitled by God. Oh, you don't recognize him?

21 posted on 10/11/2002 4:59:20 PM PDT by dasboot
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To: knighthawk
Originally he attempted to telephone the U.S. President to communicate his views, but Bush did not take his calls, so Mandela phoned ex-president George Bush Sr. to complain about his son and ask for his criticisms to be passed on. When this failed to move Bush Jr.,.....

.....

"Michael is in charge now. Anything you have to say, you say to him."

LOL

22 posted on 10/11/2002 5:00:52 PM PDT by paul in cape
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To: knighthawk
Puck him.
23 posted on 10/11/2002 5:02:43 PM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: knighthawk
It is a time for choosing sides. We have chosen to protect our 'hood. What's Mandela going to do when Mugabe comes into SA looking for Mandela's head on a pike? Go with the winner, Nelson, it's the prudent thing.
24 posted on 10/11/2002 5:07:14 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: knighthawk
I say we cut off all foreign aid to South Africa immediately. Hit 'em where it hurts.
25 posted on 10/11/2002 5:09:27 PM PDT by Schatze
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To: knighthawk
Mandela picks Iraq over U.S.

Well I pick Satan over Mandela, so we're even.

26 posted on 10/11/2002 5:12:48 PM PDT by swampfox98
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To: knighthawk
Does anybody on this board buy into the Nelson Mandela myth?

The con gets out of jail after 30 years and does his impression of Morgan Freeman playing the chauffeur in Driving Miss Daisy, and three billion people want to kiss his ar**.

A couple of days ago I saw a photo of Mandela with South African Communist party leader and KGB colonel Joe Slovo in front of the hammer and cycle. That's the company he kept and he's welcome to it.

I haven't noticed the South African economy astounding the world lately, despite the price of gold rising 15-20% the past few months. Could it be Mandela didn't create a paradise on earth there? South Africa is the murder and forcible rape capital of the world. Work on that one, Nelson, and keep your trousers on.










27 posted on 10/11/2002 5:14:09 PM PDT by Man of the Right
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To: knighthawk
Hey Mandela!

F U!


28 posted on 10/11/2002 5:14:30 PM PDT by semaj
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To: knighthawk
When "Marxie Mandela" gave a speech to a joint session of Congress,they ALL gave him a standing ovation. Not a single one had the guys to remain sitting and say Mandela deserved to be hung,not applauded. They helped create this "beast",so they have no grounds now to complain about him.
29 posted on 10/11/2002 5:17:14 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: knighthawk
The money mandela got for the peace prize was long gone, so saddam comes to the rescue. A few iraqi barrels of oil did the trick.
30 posted on 10/11/2002 5:22:45 PM PDT by desertcry
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To: knighthawk
Mandela is an insane fool, a blind dotard too long bending the ears of other fools with his Marxist babble...oh, wait, I was thinking of Jimmy Carter. Sorry. Mandela isn't blind, but I often get them confused...no offense intended.
31 posted on 10/11/2002 5:22:53 PM PDT by jwfiv
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To: knighthawk
I think he should go over to Iraq, in the no-fly zone, and learn how to use the SAM sites that happen to pop up from time to time! I think he should lead by example.
32 posted on 10/11/2002 5:23:22 PM PDT by luv2ndamend
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To: knighthawk
I wonder if Clinton has put up Mandela to do this.
33 posted on 10/11/2002 5:25:06 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: knighthawk
Is this guy serious or what??? I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT I'M READING! WE HELPED SAVE HIM FROM PRISON, ONLY TO SEE HIM TURN ON US! SOUNDS LIKE HE NEEDS A GOOD OLE FASHION WHOOPING!
34 posted on 10/11/2002 5:28:55 PM PDT by mrb1960
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To: OKSooner
LOL! Agreed!
35 posted on 10/11/2002 5:29:24 PM PDT by livius
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To: knighthawk
Mandela said that when he took office his regime had the South African atom bomb stocks dismantled.

Obviously he then sold them to Saddam Hussein, right?!

36 posted on 10/11/2002 5:32:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: knighthawk
..Birds of a feather...
37 posted on 10/11/2002 5:32:59 PM PDT by Consort
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To: knighthawk
I read elsewhere today, South Africa has been selling arms, and enriched uranium to Iraq for quite some time now.
39 posted on 10/11/2002 5:36:10 PM PDT by genefromjersey
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To: knighthawk
Mandela picks Iraq over U.S.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

40 posted on 10/11/2002 5:57:02 PM PDT by genew
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