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We should be working on fuel cells as a matter of defence priority. I don't really care about the Green arguments - I suspect they'll be against this as they are more interested in reducing us to primitivism rather than technological developments - but if we produce these vehicles, we yank the rug out from underneath the Saudis, Iranians and Iraqis. They'll be reduced to throwing rocks at low flying British and American bombers on another raid. The entire edifice of terror will lose its ability to finance itself.

How fitting that Ford, which revolutionised cars the first time with the creation of the Model T, is planning to do so again with this. And this revolution will help us be the eventual winners in the war on terror.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 10/10/2002 2:11:29 AM PDT by MadIvan
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2 posted on 10/10/2002 2:11:56 AM PDT by MadIvan
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What ever happend to the Water engine?
15 posted on 10/10/2002 2:58:48 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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An Eddie Kasalivich BUMP
23 posted on 10/10/2002 3:24:33 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: MadIvan

Old Ford Pinto......New Ford Focus...

Sorry, I can't help but wonder what it takes to keep the hydrogen in liquid form and the potential for tank rupture under impact.

25 posted on 10/10/2002 3:28:40 AM PDT by Caipirabob
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To: MadIvan
Of course producing pressurized hudrogen to run these clunkers requires no cost or pollution.
27 posted on 10/10/2002 3:55:20 AM PDT by RLK
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To: MadIvan
Rather related link: http://www.moller.com
31 posted on 10/10/2002 4:25:01 AM PDT by Tulsa Brian
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To: MadIvan
"We should be working on fuel cells as a matter of defence priority."

Exactly! The peace and security of the middle east, to say nothing of our own, depends on the speedy vaporising of their fabulous oil wealth. You notice that they have not wasted any of it developing cures for diseases, nor estabishing world class universities, nor encouraging the arts. No, no, it's much more important for them to indulge the wildest fancies of their sheiks, and to finance terrorist organizations.

I know, I know, I'm ranting. But this is a subject close to my heart. Think how wonderful it will be - fresh, clean air to breathe, no ugly gas stations on every corner, and NO dependence on terrorists for our energy. Heaven!!
33 posted on 10/10/2002 5:25:35 AM PDT by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: MadIvan
bump
36 posted on 10/10/2002 5:31:07 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: MadIvan
We should be working on fuel cells as a matter of defence priority. I don't really care about the Green arguments

I've been saying this for a while. We are now at war and will be for decades. We are not likely to convert overnight, but we could convert over 20 years.

38 posted on 10/10/2002 5:40:12 AM PDT by js1138
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To: MadIvan
I've got to get busy on my patent for the system that reproduces a good throaty header equipped V-8 sound then!
I'm gonna be rich!
44 posted on 10/10/2002 6:46:26 AM PDT by Minnesoootan
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DaimlerChrysler to Launch First U.S. Fleet of Fuel Cell Vehicles in 2003

Researchers Produce Hydrogen from Peanut Shells

Ford Focus FCEV Hybrid: Bringing Together Propulsion Systems

NAVAIR Contracts For First Fuel Cell Use in Residential Area

Direct Methanol Fuel Cell Approved for Carriage on Aeroplanes

The DoD to Install and Test Plug Power Inc. Residential Fuel Cell System

46 posted on 10/10/2002 7:08:15 AM PDT by zx2dragon
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To: MadIvan
I have driven many of the fuel cell vehicles. I was pleased that the president partially responded to my question at the Town Hall Forum in Ontario, CA by mentioning fuel cells and giving support to their development. Let America benefit from being on the cutting edge of this technology and may the Arabs pound sand.
47 posted on 10/10/2002 7:09:30 AM PDT by doug from upland
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To: MadIvan
We should be working on fuel cells as a matter of defence priority

We are. Hydrogen has many advantages. Building the support infrastructure will take time, and since we would replace a huge, expensive oil-based infrastructure it will be expensive. It's going to take years, decades to convert over whether it is a national defense priority or not. Not a quick solution, but inevitable.

61 posted on 10/10/2002 9:26:58 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: MadIvan
Bump for later! Thanks.
63 posted on 10/10/2002 9:29:43 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: MadIvan
One thing this post totally ignores is that Hydrogen fuel cells put huge amounts of hydroxil acid into the atmosphere - which is a far more serious "global warming" pollutant than CO2.
76 posted on 10/10/2002 1:53:02 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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