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I certainly don't know that Hoagland's right or a saint or his farts don't smell. Haven't been to his lectures. Only looked at a relatively small percentage of his pics.

Some of the pics do look very much like buried cities in the sand and nothing less or else. And some of the purported third party measurements of some of the anomolies seem a little bit tricky to explain away with a quick cursory dismissive swipe of the bias.

I do believe that something vs nothing is going on in roughly those directions.

There are those who insist that WE as in USA have bases on the moon and on Mars and have had for decades. I won't be shocked if I find it's true but that's stretching it a bit for me.

Regardless, about Hoagland, to me, the DISCOVERY PROJECT with soooo many high ranking, very experienced, very successful scientist military types coming forward with secreted away [i.e. stolen] evidence putting their lives and retirements on the line. . . I don't think you can rationally sweep away several dozen, much less several hundred such folk with such a blind, biased dismissive hand.

I don't think you can rationally sweep away several dozen, much less several hundred such folk with such a blind, biased dismissive hand...

Oh, it's anything but blind and only a little biased - that's why I listened to the guy's talk, among others. I'd recommend you do as well - knowing what you've evinced on this thread I suspect you'd come to the same conclusion I did - he's not even convincing.

There are those who insist that WE as in USA have bases on the moon and on Mars and have had for decades. I won't be shocked if I find it's true but that's stretching it a bit for me.

Hmmm.... A trillion here, a trillion there, pretty soon you're talking real money.