[andy_card]

There are those who insist that WE as in USA have bases on the moon and on Mars and have had for decades. I won't be shocked if I find it's true but that's stretching it a bit for me.

Hmmm.... A trillion here, a trillion there, pretty soon you're talking real money.

[Quix]

And if you throw in the drug receipts as some contend, perhaps it's somewhat plausible. But that would take some pretty incredible security--possible but goodness--the doing of it.

Of course, some of the abduction stories assert exactly that. . . either such places or other dimensional places.