[Orion]

As for "sharpshooting" the contracts that's another fine example of what's wrong with unions. These companies are loosing money which, if it isn't turned around, will eventually result in ALL of the employees being on the street

The instances to my reference was when the companies were each making between $1B and $2B per year. Tell me, is it OK to violate a contract when you are losing money? Are contracts only contracts when it is convenient?

What if I am about to miss a mortgage payment? Should I be able to put the aircraft in a holding pattern, go back to the passenger compartment, explain that La Guardia is experiencing 1/4 mile visibility, poor braking action, and a bitch of a crosswind. Given the congestion of the airspace and the short runways, I think I need more money for the effort. How about a $50 from each of you for the effort, after all, I am losing money?

No, I think all would be best served if I lived up to the agreements I signed. Unfortunately, some think this does not apply to government and corporations when unions are involved.

It's the bias:Unions are bad, therefore unions are bad.

We had better start paying protection money to the Pubbies, or be out of a job.

[discostu]

Making or profiting, big difference.

Tell me the exact situation you're talking about. I'm not going to argue some points just to have you introduce new stuff. Lay it out on the table so I can have the whole picture.

As for your hypothetical... win effect that's what a union does EVERY TIME they threaten or go on strike. These dockworkers are saying they don't want computerized tracking on the docks that would make their work more efficient and result in less overtime and therefore lower cost of goods sold and a lower cost of living, and they're willing to kill the American economy to make their point. It's not right for the workers to hold the business and the customers hostage.

Now I think the situation you're alluding to is one where in the company can no longer afford to live up to the CBA. This is very different than your hypothetical. It's one thing to deliberately withhold payment, it's another entirely to simply not have the money to pay. What is a company supposed to do when they simply cannot pay the employees? The government owns all the important printing presses, the company can't just create money to meet the conditions of the CBA with.

No bias, all the evidence points to unions being bad. There is no evidence they are anything but bad. I've been paying protection money to the unions in one form or another all my life, and the thanks I get is that their holding the entire economy hostage. As you've pointed out in this post: a deal is a deal. The union should honor the protection money I've been paying them and learn to operate those little scanner guns, they're pretty fun toys actually.