[pgkdan]

Great job and thanks for satanding up to the traitor. You said that you're a constituent of Baghdad Jim's...how's his race look out there? Is going to pay for this treachery with his seat?

[Reagan Man]

Screw that bastard, Jim McDermott!

[jimkress]

It's going to take a generation or two of being enslaved to convince these people that the freedom they take for granted isn't free.

[Jeff Head]

God bless you and Libertina and all those who stood for right.

A wise man once said (paraphrase):

If you stand for liberty you stand with God. And if you stand alone you still stand with God and the right."

You stood with God today IMHO, and God bless you for it. The principles upon which this nation were founded and a firm committment to them are the furhtest idea away from the like of McDermott and those who support him. They are socialist/marxists. Their ilk was in control for eight years and look what it got us.

We need many, many more to stand ... but in the end ... God and one make a majority.

Best Regards.

[Post Toasties]

Thanks for standing up to the unpatriotic lying Left. I was wondering, when these hooligans start threatening protesters who disagree with them, as they usually seem to do, maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to have some 'going away' signs to given them a little something to think about, something like 'Support freedom of expression' or 'Lefties loved Stalin and Hitler, too.'.

[goodnesswins]

Thanks for posting this - I saw it in the Washington (the state) post section....I was hoping you'd get it out...

BUMP

[Diver Dave]

Great report Patriot. Thanks for sharing your experiences and for taking McDermott to task.

Puget Sound FReepers, I salute you all.

[Quix]

MAY GOD RICHLY BLESS YOU AND ALL YOUR RELATIONSHIPS.

THANKS FOR DOING OUR DUTY FOR US. I'm kind of glad to no longer be in the shameful scum's constituency.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

My deepest thanks to the Baghdad thirty.

[Jabba the Nutt]

Did you tape his talk? If not, you should, there's national interest in what McDermott is saying, because he is so outrageous.

[Gracey]

Wow. Unbelieveable that there are so many of these magot infected leftist/socialist in our country. Says much for our educational system and very similar to our local group here in Austin. Here's some thoughts picked up from a blog site. Wish I had seen this before going to our Anti-War protest.

Thanks for a job well done.

Found this on a blog thread. About sums up the rational fairly well.

http://www.joeuser.com/Articles/Whyistheblogspherepromili.html

Why is the blogsphere pro military action?

Brad Wardell ( 10/06/02)

A friend of mine asked me today why are so many of the blogs are “pro-war” with regard to Iraq?

I think it has to do with the fact that blogs, unlike the general media, are much more interactive. If we put out a faulty argument, we’re going to get called on it.

So far, none of the anti-war people have put together a compelling argument for not acting with military force. For most people who have put a lot of thought into this subject it boils down to this:

Which costs more? Using military force to make a regime change in Iraq or doing nothing (or relying on inspections)?

The anti-war crowd has put together lots of “questions” and “concerns” and questions about the concerns and concerns over questions about what could conceivably go wrong if the United States and friends invade Iraq. For the sake of argument, I think many who advocate military action concede that military action, as an option, stinks. It’s just that we think the long term results of doing nothing will stink more.

The anti-war crowd is like the man trapped in a burning building. Standing near the edge of a window he sees a net being placed below him to jump into. He ponders all the things that might go wrong if he tries to jump into the net. Maybe he’ll miss. Maybe the net will break. Maybe he’ll get hurt anyway. Does that mean he shouldn’t still jump? Without considering the results of not jumping (such as being horribly burned to death), it’s a meaningless argument.

So any credible argument that is meant to persuade anyone to be against military action needs to put forth the argument that doing nothing will very likely cost less than military action. And so far no one in the blogsphere has put forth such an argument. In fact, I haven’t even read a single argument that attempts to argue that the cost of inaction is less than the cost of action.

And so the result is that the blogsphere is almost completely in favor of military action. If you don’t like that, then you need to come up with an argument that includes calculating in the cost of inaction.

update: One reader asks "What about the option between military action versus coerced inspections/disarmament?" This assumes 1) That inspections will somehow go differently than before, 2) The cease-fire terms required disarmament and he violated them, so we're going to go through the same show again? 3) How long are "inspections" going to last? 3 years? 5 years? Indefinitely? I don't see how indefinitely is going to be an option and what would be the costs of indefinite inspections? What about the costs of inspections for 3 years (which seems to me to just delay the inevitable).

I've written a follow-up that addresses the pro-inspection argument:

FOLLOWUP:

Inspections equal Inaction
Brad Wardell ( 10/06/02)

Several readers have emailed me asserting that if we can get inspectors back into Iraq and force disarmament then we can avoid a costly war, save lives, and accomplish the same goals. I don't see it that way. In my view, the original inspections had two goals:

1) To disarm Iraq of any weapons of mass destruction

2) To demonstrate whether Saddam could be trusted to comply with his agreements.

Both goals had to be accomplished to make any future relationship with Saddam's Iraq possible. History has shown that the original inspections accomplished neither goal and in fact has shown that Iraq will not act in good faith.

So what's really the point in getting inspectors in? How long are they going to stay in there? Indefinitely? That's the only way I can see them being effective. Having to play cat and mouse with Saddam and Junior over the next several decades is going to be costly. And I haven't seen any real
analysis looking at the likely costs of this.

What you say? If he messes up then we go in with force later on? Well heck, he was violating terms of the gulf war cease fire while US troops were still in his territory. The will of the "international community" and that of the United States is variable depending on who is in charge.

So let's look at this hypothetical:

Saddam lets inspectors back in with truly "unfettered access". Over the next 2 years they find no weapons of mass destruction (i.e. Saddam has destroyed them or hidden them beyond being found).

What then? The pressure to remove sanctions will only grow. So then let's say in 2004 the left's dreams come true and we get a President Bonior or something. At that point, Iraq sans sanctions is able to put its weapons programs into high gear and starts to gradually increase the pressure on theweapons inspectors, obstructing them at greater rates while bemoaning to the UN that "the inspections have been going on for long enough, it's time to move on.." President Bonior says "We must take Saddam at face value" and the inspections end. Just after Bonior wins his second term, Iraq announces it has several nuclear weapons and begins bullying OPEC, winning concessions from his neighbors and potentially supplying terrorists with weapons of mass destruction. And that's a rosy scenario.

So in my mind, all inspections do is delay the problem. Saddam has already demonstrates he can't be trusted. I don't want to gamble with something this important. Taking Iraq might cost us thousands of troops and require occupation while a new liberal democratic government is nurtured. But the benefits of this far outweigh, in my mind, the cost of inaction. And I suspect that like the first gulf war, that the likely costs of military action will be much less than the doom and gloom that we're being fed.
In my view, inspections are the same as inaction since they lead to the same results.

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Anti-war protest draws about 1,500 in Austin (plus two Freepers for counter-demonstration)

Posted by GUIDO to jobshopper; Gracey; TheSarce; austingirl
On News/Activism Oct 6 3:47 PM #84 of 87

same here, I read it in the paper and knew. Thankfully the paper here mentioned they were from freerepublic. I have been waiting for this report. I am so proud of you that went. It takes alot of courage to be there amongst some really bitter, hateful and basically looney people. I have done it before and the liberals do not know diplomacy. Thanks for all you do. guido

[brat]

God bless you wonderful patriots! Thankyou!

[Jeff Chandler]

Good lord, it's beginning to sound like Vietnam all over again.

[bonesmccoy]

Thanks for your actions... god bless you buddy!

There were similar protests in various locations across the US today. Of course, the liberal media was covering these antics in force. On the LA TV 10PM and 11PM news feeds, the stories of protest were surrounded by other stories of "new Bin Ladin tape at 10" and "French oil tank blew up, probably Al Qaida"

Featured prominently in our area were representatives of the Greens, Commies, and ACLU (same outfit I guess).

I noticed that you wrote this: The police said they could/would do nothing unless an actual assault occured

Well, I got news. What an incompetent police department! If one guy chucks a rock in our area, the Sheriff's Dept. calls it "attack with a deadly weapon", "attempted assault", and "obstruction of traffic". Where in hell are the LAPD, Seattle PD, and NYPD at any of these demonstrations? The laws are written to be followed, not to be gathering mold in the ex-chief's book nook!

If you got the crime, make 'em do the time!
If you got a crook, put 'em in the slammer.
If the anarchists have rocks, take away the entire flock!

[Rome2000]

One brave fellow asked what Mr. McDermott was doing to control rampant spending in Washington. Mr Mcdermott said (and once again I am serious) that he has been trying to cut defense spending for years (to wild applause).

Baghdad Jim Mcdermott is a pinko card carrying member of the Democratic Socialists of America's Progressive Caucus, a group of UNPATRIOTIC UNAMERICAN subversives that are actively engaged in overthrowing the capitalist system of government in the USA and transforming it into a socialist nation.

"Progressive" is a code word for socialist, note that Sanders of VT is an officer.

Why these people are allowed to get on national TV and not disclose or be asked by the press reagrding their membership in a socialist organization is beyond me.

The table below was downloaded from the Democratic Socialists of America

Members of the Progressive Caucus

officers
Member/Position/District	Address	Phone	Website
Peter DeFazio (OFFICER, OREGON-04)	2134 RHOB	225-6416	WEBSITE
Dennis Kucinich (Chairman) (CHAIR, OHIO-10)	1730 LHOB	225-5871	WEBSITE
Barbara Lee (Vice Chair) (OFFICER, CALIFORNIA-09)	426 CHOB	225-2661	WEBSITE
Cynthia McKinney (OFFICER, GEORGIA-04)	124 CHOB	225-1605	WEBSITE
Major Owens (OFFICER, NEW YORK-11)	2309 RHOB	225-6231	WEBSITE
Bernie Sanders (OFFICER, VERMONT)	2135 RHOB	225-4115	WEBSITE
Paul Wellstone (OFFICER, MINNESOTA)	136 HSOB	224-5641	WEBSITE

members
Member/Position/District	Address	Phone	Website
Neil Abercrombie (MEMBER, HAWAII-01)	1502 LHOB	225-2726	WEBSITE
Tammy Baldwin (MEMBER, WISCONSIN-02)	1022 LHOB	225-2906	WEBSITE
Xavier Becerra (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-30)	1119 LHOB	225-6235	WEBSITE
David Bonior (MEMBER, MICHIGAN-10)	2207 RHOB	225-2106	WEBSITE
Corrine Brown (MEMBER, FLORIDA-03)	2444 RHOB	225-0123	WEBSITE
Sherrod Brown (MEMBER, OHIO-13)	2438 RHOB	225-3401	WEBSITE
Michael Capuano (MEMBER, MASSACHUSETTS-08)	1232 LHOB	225-5111	WEBSITE
Julia Carson (MEMBER, INDIANA-10)	1339 LHOB	225-4011	WEBSITE
William "Lacy" Clay (MEMBER, MISSOURI-01)	415 CHOB	225-2406	WEBSITE
John Conyers (MEMBER, MICHIGAN-14)	2426 RHOB	225-5126	WEBSITE
Danny Davis (MEMBER, ILLINOIS-07)	1222 LHOB	225-5006	WEBSITE
Rosa DeLauro (MEMBER, CONNECTICUT-03)	2262 RHOB	225-3661	WEBSITE
Lane Evans (MEMBER, ILLINOIS-17)	2211 RHOB	225-5905	WEBSITE
Eni Faleomavaega (MEMBER, AMERICAN SAMOA)	2422 RHOB	225-8577	WEBSITE
Sam Farr (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-17)	1221 LHOB	225-2861	WEBSITE
Chaka Fattah (MEMBER, PENNSYLVANIA-02)	1205 LHOB	225-4001	WEBSITE
Bob Filner (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-50)	2463 RHOB	225-8045	WEBSITE
Barney Frank (MEMBER, MASSACHUSETTS-04)	2252 RHOB	225-5931	WEBSITE
Luis Gutierrez (MEMBER, ILLINOIS-04)	2452 RHOB	225-8203	WEBSITE
Earl Hilliard (MEMBER, ALABAMA-07)	1314 LHOB	225-2665	WEBSITE
Maurice Hinchey (MEMBER, NEW YORK-26)	2431 RHOB	225-6335	WEBSITE
Jesse Jackson, Jr (MEMBER, ILLINOIS-02)	313 CHOB	225-0773
Sheila Jackson-Lee (MEMBER, TEXAS-18)	403 CHOB	225-3816	WEBSITE
Stephanie Tubbs Jones (MEMBER, OHIO-11)	1516 LHOB	225-7032	WEBSITE
Marcy Kaptur (MEMBER, OHIO-09)	2366 RHOB	225-4146	WEBSITE
Tom Lantos (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-12)	2217 RHOB	225-3531	WEBSITE
John Lewis (MEMBER, GEORGIA-05)	343 CHOB	225-3801	WEBSITE
Jim McDermott (MEMBER, WASHINGTON-07)	1035 LHOB	225-3106	WEBSITE
James P. McGovern (MEMBER, MASSACHUSETTS-03)	430 CHOB	225-6101	WEBSITE
Carrie Meek (MEMBER, FLORIDA-17)	2433 RHOB	225-4506	WEBSITE
George Miller (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-07)	2205 RHOB	225-2095	WEBSITE
Patsy Mink (MEMBER, HAWAII-02)	2210 RHOB	225-4906	WEBSITE
Jerry Nadler (MEMBER, NEW YORK-08)	2334 RHOB	225-5635	WEBSITE
Eleanor Holmes Norton (MEMBER, D.C.)	2136 RHOB	225-8050	WEBSITE
John Olver (MEMBER, MASSACHUSETTS-01)	1027 LHOB	225-5335	WEBSITE
Ed Pastor (MEMBER, ARIZONA-02)	2465 RHOB	225-4065	WEBSITE
Donald Payne (MEMBER, NEW JERSEY-10)	2209 RHOB	225-3436	WEBSITE
Nancy Pelosi (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-08)	2457 RHOB	225-4965	WEBSITE
Bobby Rush (MEMBER, ILLINOIS-01)	2416 RHOB	225-4372	WEBSITE
Jan Schakowsky (MEMBER, ILLINOIS-09)	515 CHOB	225-2111	WEBSITE
Jose Serrano (MEMBER, NEW YORK-16)	2342 RHOB	225-4361	WEBSITE
Hilda Solis (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-31)	1641 LHOB	225-5464	WEBSITE
Pete Stark (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-13)	239 CHOB	225-5065	WEBSITE
Bennie Thompson (MEMBER, MISSISSIPPI-02)	2432 RHOB	225-5876	WEBSITE
John Tierney (MEMBER, MASSACHUSETTS-06)	120 CHOB	225-8020	WEBSITE
Tom Udall (MEMBER, NEW MEXICO-03)	502 CHOB	225-6190	WEBSITE
Nydia Velazquez (MEMBER, NEW YORK-12)	2241 RHOB	225-2361	WEBSITE
Maxine Waters (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-35)	2344 RHOB	225-2201	WEBSITE
Diane Watson (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-32)	2413 RHOB	225-7084	WEBSITE
Mel Watt (MEMBER, NORTH CAROLINA-12)	2236 RHOB	225-1510	WEBSITE
Henry Waxman (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-29)	2204 RHOB	225-3976	WEBSITE
Lynn Woolsey (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-06)	2263 RHOB	225-5161	WEBSITE

Congressional Progressive Caucus

[joyful1]

If the GOP had any public relations skills (which they woefully lack), they could make hay with this. You know the DEMs would use clips of this to their victorious advantage.

I mourn the terrible PR of the GOP.

[BillF]

especially when he accused the President of using the 09/11 Terrorist attacks for his own political benefit.

McTraitor no doubt believes that the U.S. deserved the 9/11 attacks because we haven't established prescription drug benefits for pets.

Salute for standing up for truth and America there on the left coast!

[austingirl]

Thank you for making a difference.

[admiralsn]

McDermott for Congress Web Site

[Dick Bachert]

Hidden camera shot of David Boner preparing for his audience with Sodamn Insane. Speculation is that he is looking for colleague McDimwit in the most likely location.