STRIKE AFFECT ON ECONOMY

Fiedor Report On the News #290 ^ | 10-6-02 | Doug Fiedor

[forest]

The collateral damage is huge. He's correct, too. $Billions in Christmas stock is probably held up by the strike. But local merchants and customers will probably not be harmed.

ILWU wages will reach $137,500 plus $59,000 in percs and bennies. I could live on that all week!

Christians in China are in forced labor prisons making toys for Christian Christmas in America.

There are millions of American shops, so buy American.

If this longshoremen's strike adversely affects the well being of the chain stores supporting communist China and causes unemployment in Asia to increase, so be it. So, ask me if I care that major marketers of Chinese made goods may not have product on the shelves for Christmas. Fact is, I don't! Because, if I buy Christmas gifts for kids, I damn sure do not want something made in a Chinese labor camp -- or anywhere in communist China, for that matter. They don't like me. I won't support them. Case closed.

Yes, the longshoremen's strike is going to cause some economic problems. But, no, it need not affect our Christmas celebration one little bit. Buy American.

[fire and forget]

This all boils down to union demands, right? Tell me the dems aren't involved and working to undermine the U.S. economy for their own political gain.

[Old Professer]

This strike (shutdown) does "affect" the economy, but the headline should have read STRIKE EFFECT ON ECONOMY.

[Barnacle]

No group - terrorist or union, should be allowed to hold America hostage.

Write congress and President Bush today.

[Ff--150]

Yes, "Buy American" is the way to go--but when those despots have no further use for those enslaved, Chinese Christians...

Sickening, and so sad...

[gcruse]

We have no dog in that fight one way or the other and the
arguments thrown around are much too complicated to relate
properly here.

Thanks for nothing, Doug.  There is nothing complicated
about an extremely overpaid bunch of union goons shutting
down 20% of the economy so that such basic material
tracking technology as bar code scanners can be used
to manage this stuff.  Your  reluctance to discuss the
 luddite featherbedded unions suggests that you do
actually, have a dog in this fight, whether it is hiding
under the porch or masquerading as a shoe tree.

[Route66]

I can appreciate the call to "Buy American", but I own a small computer business and there are NO American made alternatives to most of the parts I must buy. I use 'just in time' inventory and on top of the already bad economy, this strike could literally put me out of business. I certainly do not want my terrific employees to lose their jobs just in time for Christmas.

Since everyone reading this forum is using a computer, I hope that everyone would sit down and think a bit about all the ways this strike could affect you and your communities. The real impact might come as a surprise. If this strike goes on much longer it is going to affect us all in ways that will go much further than the loss of a few asian-made Christmas toys.

[Doug Fiedor]

This strike (shutdown) does "affect" the economy, but the headline should have read STRIKE EFFECT ON ECONOMY.

That is a close call -- affect or effect -- that I thought about for a while and looked up in three different places.

To effect is to be brought about by a cause or an agent; a result. Which I took to mean, a "result" that already happened. This is not the case here.

To affect is to achieve a result; to influence a result. Which could (maybe) mean that it has not exactly happened yet.

That unpleasant "result" of the strike on our economy, not yet being apparent, I used Affect.

Which is "exactly" correct? Heck if I know! But, there came a time when I had too much time invested in thinking about just that and had to pick one. So, for the above reason, I ran with "affect."

[ChadGore]

NOTE: This strike is being brought to you by todays democrat party.

[Doctor Stochastic]

It's not a strike, it's a lockout. The shippers don't allow the workers to work. (It has the same effect though.)

[the tongue]

Why doesn't Bush just do what Truman was going to do to the railroad engineers? Threaten to draft them. This is a national emergency and he could do it by executive order. Then send their asses to Iraq for etiquette lessons.

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[WFTR]

I realize that the situation will hurt many people, and I feel bad for them. At the same time, I can't help but be somewhat amused. The free-traders are so insistent that free trade will save us from being gouged by unions and insist that no harm can come of shifting our manufacturing base overseas. Now, those same free-traders are finding that goods made overseas are not really reliable after all and are held hostage to a union after all. The unionists whine about how foreign trade destroys their jobs and their income. As the ones who still have jobs find themselves without goods that they had wanted for Christmas and others lose those jobs for lack of supplies, they will understand what it feels like to be held hostage to a union. The fact that these people make over $150k in salary and benefits is evidence that they are rich. Their whining about being the little guys who are oppressed by big business is more and more obviously false.

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[ErnBatavia]

It's not a strike, it's a lockout. The shippers don't allow the workers to work. (It has the same effect though.)

Correct, but only technically - it's semantics....the unions forced the lockout.

[supercat]

To affect is to achieve a result; to influence a result.

Yes, but to affect something is to have an effect upon it. Since the term "?ffect" is being used as a noun in the headline, effect would be correct. If the headline were written using a verb, "Strike affects economy" would have been appropriate.

[Jorge]

It's not a strike, it's a lockout. The shippers don't allow the workers to work. (It has the same effect though.)

The shippers won't allow the workers to collect their salaries for performing virtually no work...which was the case before the lockout, with the unions implimenting a "slow down".
This was in effect people standing around and doing nothing.

[no-s]

hmmm, it was a lockout, not a strike. We're not hearing the whole story here.

[lobo59]

Why do you think it has taken so long to get ready to go into Iraq. Our nation has been sold out by traitors who destroyed our manufacturing industries and shipped jobs and plants over seas. Face it we can not maintain our military because we depend on foreign suppliers. This is much more serious than the inconvenience to Walmart to not be able to scam us with imported trash. America had better wake up and rebuild our industrial base and tell the importers and corporate crimals to line their personal pockets at gun point like respectable criminals.

Sob, sob maybe a few dockworkers do make bigger bucks than some of us. It takes lots of overtime and still does not compare to the corporate thievery that reaches truly galactic scale.

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