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Democrats loseing Ground with Democrats, Democrat poll shows numbers going down.....
The Washington Prowler ^ | 10/04/2002 | The Prowler

Posted on 10/04/2002 9:55:51 AM PDT by jdontom

Democrats in Panic Mode!!! By The Prowler Published 10/4/02 12:05:00 AM

PANIC CITY House Democratic Leader Dick Gephardt and Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle will probably get together with Democratic National Committee chairman Terry McAuliffe in the next couple of days, based on the alarming polling that the Democratic Congressional leaders are seeing.

"This past week may have been the worst for the party in a long time," says a staffer on the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. "We're just getting hammered."

The polling indicates that Democratic voters contacted early in the week gave highly unfavorable ratings to the Democratic Party in general, and when asked to give examples why, listed the now infamous error-filled memo written by singer Barbra Streisand, and the appearances of Reps. David Bonior and Jim McDermott on national TV last Sunday from Baghdad. Al Gore was also mentioned as a negative. Overall, nearly 40 percent of those Democrats polled had a negative view of the party and its positions on Iraq.

In meetings this week with colleagues, Gephardt has been especially harsh in this comments about Bonior and McDermott, both of whom stood on a rooftop in Baghdad and lobbed verbal missiles at the United States. Bonior, who is a lame duck member after an embarrassing loss in the Michigan gubernatorial primary, accused the United States of being responsible for just about every illness suffered by a child in Iraq, while McDermott claimed that he knew George W. Bush would lie to the American public so he could go to war.

"Gephardt is so pissed off at those two," says a House leadership aide. "He didn't give a damn about what Bonior did, he's not his problem anymore, but he did care about McDermott's behavior. The leader asked him not to spout off on TV, but even after he's back and seen the controversy, McDermott can't keep his mouth shut. It's amazing."

And while Gephardt tried to make light of the memo faxed to him by the singer/Democratic fundraiser Streisand, he privately was embarrassed by its tone. "He's afraid people will think he gets pulled around by the nose by that woman," says one of staffers.

While McAuliffe believes the party is poised to practically sweep every major gubernatorial election -- from California to New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois and, if polls continue apace, perhaps even Florida -- he is has grown increasingly concerned about the state of the House and Senate votes. To address those concerns, he's pouring millions of previously unbudgeted dollars into Senate races in Texas, North Carolina, New Hampshire and now New Jersey. "The result is that we may be hampered in 2004, we're spending so much now," says a DNC staffer.

FIGHTING THE LAST GORE "Like a lost driver who won't stop to ask for directions, the president clutches his old plan and continues racing in the wrong direction, farther and farther into the economic wilderness, with the fate of nearly 300 million Americans in tow." Those were the words of Al Gore on Wednesday afternoon. He was speaking of President Bush, but he could just as well have talking about himself.

Democrats, while publicly supportive of the Gore talk on economics at the Brookings Institution, privately said they were alarmed that after all of the criticism heaped on his left-leaning, class warfare politicking in 2000, he seemed incapable of moving past it.

"He's never had a good ear for what the public wanted or needed to hear, and this was another example of it," says a Democratic strategist who heard the speech.

In speaking with Democrats beforehand, Gore was advised, according to Capitol Hill Democratic sources, to try to make the speech as middle of the road as possible. Instead, Gore focused on criticizing Bush's tax policies and joking about the White House's Enron-style accounting.

"That wasn't the speech we wanted him to make," says a Democratic House member. "He didn't ask for my opinion, nor should he. But if he did, I'd have told him not to speak at all. By his lack of specificity and constructive commentary, he's not doing us any good. That's our problem right now: all we can do is complain. We have no ideas, no solutions, no suggestions."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; cliton; democrats; demorats; gore; soreloserman
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The Demorats showmanship in a time of war is backfiring with their own constitutints. McDerment, Gore, Bonior, Clinton all making Dems. look pethetic. Gephardt only one on same page as Bush.
1 posted on 10/04/2002 9:55:51 AM PDT by jdontom
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Yep, and while large scale 'Rat defection to Republican candidates this October may be too much to ask, what this dissatisfaction may do is suppress 'Rat turnout.
2 posted on 10/04/2002 10:01:10 AM PDT by Freemyland
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To address those concerns, he's pouring millions of previously unbudgeted dollars into Senate races in Texas, North Carolina, New Hampshire and now New Jersey. "The result is that we may be hampered in 2004, we're spending so much now," says a DNC staffer.

The GOP and NRSC have way more money than the Dems but that doesn't mean we can get complacent. Donate to either the RNC or the NRSC today!

HOLD THE HOUSE. TAKE BACK THE SENATE!

3 posted on 10/04/2002 10:01:11 AM PDT by Wphile
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"That's our problem right now: all we can do is complain. We have no ideas, no solutions, no suggestions."

Its been that way since Reagan left the party.

4 posted on 10/04/2002 10:01:28 AM PDT by smith288
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"He's afraid people will think he gets pulled around by the nose by that woman,"

Hmmm. Shouldn't it be "pulled around by the nose OF that woman?" She is a woman isn't she?

5 posted on 10/04/2002 10:02:53 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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I'm enjoying watching the Libdems, continually shoot themselves in the foot on this issue of Iraq and the war on terrorism. Dick Gephardt may be a liberal, but he's no fool. Congressmen like Gephardt and Zell Miller can see the hand writing on the wall. I would have thought after 9-11, that people like McDermot and Bonier would have had the smarts to catch the BUSH EXPRESS and get on board, while the getting was good. These appeasers and peaceniks are way out of the American mainstream.
6 posted on 10/04/2002 10:03:14 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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Don't be fooled by Gephardt. At the BS fund raiser, he refered to working with the Republicans as working in a nut house. Now, he will not own up to it.
7 posted on 10/04/2002 10:05:18 AM PDT by 7thson
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That's our problem right now: all we can do is complain. We have no ideas, no solutions, no suggestions."

That has always been their problem. It's much easier to bitch than fix.

8 posted on 10/04/2002 10:05:22 AM PDT by RobFromGa
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Bonier is on his way out and doesn't care. McDermot is in a safe seat and only by urinating on the flag will he get more votes. However, they do not realize or do not care what their antics will do to other Dems. That is fine with me. I hope that their actions will inspire more and more people to vote Republican.
9 posted on 10/04/2002 10:07:26 AM PDT by 7thson
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"This past week may have been the worst for the party in a long time."

I hope it gets a lot worse.

10 posted on 10/04/2002 10:10:13 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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"He's afraid people will think he gets pulled around by the nose by that woman,"

Pun intended???

11 posted on 10/04/2002 10:10:18 AM PDT by 2banana
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12 posted on 10/04/2002 10:10:59 AM PDT by Mo1
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No mercy for the DemonRats!
13 posted on 10/04/2002 10:11:32 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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Gephardt is definately running for President in 2004, he is positioning himself as the voice of sanity while the rest of the party self-destructs. He is using the Clinton playbook, appear to be moderate, while all time never abandoning his commie lib principles.
14 posted on 10/04/2002 10:12:56 AM PDT by dfwgator
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>>>I hope that their actions will inspire more and more people to vote Republican.

That's exactly what's going to happen. In the old days, prior to the VietNam War and Watergate, loyality to the US by Democrat Congressmen, wasn't even a question. In today's environment, political correctness rules for most Democrats, because most Democrats are liberals and socialists at heart and that places them outside the mainstream of American society.

15 posted on 10/04/2002 10:14:40 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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The polling indicates that Democratic voters contacted early in the week gave highly unfavorable ratings to the Democratic Party in general, and when asked to give examples why, listed the now infamous error-filled memo written by singer Barbra Streisand

Leave it to the Dems to get upset about this silly thing. It's the treason and law-breaking they should be worried about. Most Dems probably think that Babs is a high-ranking Dem official though. LOL

16 posted on 10/04/2002 10:16:00 AM PDT by #3Fan
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Bonior, who is a lame duck member after an embarrassing loss in the Michigan gubernatorial primary - Bonior, who is a lame duck member after an embarrassing loss in the Michigan gubernatorial primary - Bonior, who is a lame duck member after an embarrassing loss in the Michigan gubernatorial primary - Bonior, who is a lame duck member after an embarrassing loss in the Michigan gubernatorial primary - Bonior, who is a lame duck member after an embarrassing loss in the Michigan gubernatorial primary...

Sorry folks, "I LOVE the smell of burning RATS in the morning."

17 posted on 10/04/2002 10:16:01 AM PDT by Henchster
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"PANIC CITY House Democratic Leader Dick Gephardt and Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle will probably get together with Democratic National Committee chairman Terry McAuliffe in the next couple of days, based on the alarming polling that the Democratic Congressional leaders are seeing."

"This past week may have been the worst for the party in a long time," says a staffer on the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. "We're just getting hammered."

I hope the ultra-Liberals break with the Dimocrat Party and form the Communitarian Party!

18 posted on 10/04/2002 10:16:05 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: RonDog; *calgov2002; Grampa Dave; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; Gophack; eureka!; ElkGroveDan
Ping for Freedom.....
19 posted on 10/04/2002 10:21:15 AM PDT by jdontom
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This poll also took place prior to fallout from the Torch deal in New Jersey. Be interesting to see what the fallout of that is. Despite the media's best efforts, the Floriduh debacle was still obviously a Rat ploy to steal an election, and the public figured it out. Will they do the same for NJ, or will it stay under national radar because it's a Senatorial vote?

Also, are the rats counting on a big dead vote turnout in Floriduh? The article said they had hopes of stealing that one, but I though Bush was doing very well there. They must have a warehouse full of pre-filled ballots somewhere.

20 posted on 10/04/2002 10:23:55 AM PDT by Richard Kimball
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