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Terror link to Maryland shootings? Experts divided whether killing spree work of al-Qaida
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| Friday, October 4, 2002
Posted on 10/03/2002 11:45:15 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: kcvl
But the amazing thing is what the bullet stopped next to, the store's employees said: a book called Inspiration for the Heart from the Prayer of Jabez, by Bruce Wilkinson. The bullet has not been recovered.
I wonder why the bullet has not been found?
To: Free Trapper
I have some theories regarding what these shootings are all about, all related to terrorism:
1. A demonstration of how easy it can be to take out anyone in broad daylight in the shadow of the Nation's capitol and withdraw without a trace.
2. Police baiting. Create a panic situation and have associates observe and study the arrival and methodology/patterns of responding authorities, medical teams, etc.
3. Assasination rehearsal. Long range (probably scoped) target practise on ordinary citizens in the hopes of improving accuracy, methodology, exit plan execution, etc. in preparation for a bigger future event.
IMO, the authorities need to "think outside the box" on this type of scenerio and abandon conventional investigative procedures. Of course, they may already be doing that and just keeping quiet about it. I would hate to think that they have not even considered the possibility that this is more than a fruitcake loose with a "Texas Tower" mentality.
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posted on
10/04/2002 4:55:14 AM PDT
by
GreyWolf
To: AndyJackson
The one-shot one-kill at long range indicates a very much higher level of training and experience. These appear to have been head shots and heart shots.This is an urban area so true long range shots is unlikely. Probably a maximum of 100 yards. No great skill required. Any decently trained police officer or military soldier could definitely manage one-shot kills, even to the head. However, apparently some took hits in the chest. Even easier.
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posted on
10/04/2002 4:58:25 AM PDT
by
toddst
To: Jackie222
I wondered the same thing.
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posted on
10/04/2002 4:59:28 AM PDT
by
Dante3
To: brigette
What type of rifle or bullet would leave such a large hole the size of an average coffee cup rim? Unless he was shot at close range.Just about any medium to big game hunting rifle would do this. I could cite calibers but any citation would be mere speculation on my part. Modern hunting ammunition for say deer expands after hitting the target. Such a projectile is less likely to merely wound the deer and cause it a slow painful death. Stay well - stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown
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posted on
10/04/2002 5:17:02 AM PDT
by
harpseal
To: Jeremy_Reaban
Yeah. 2 Whites, 2 Hispanics, 1 Black. 3 men, 2 women. About as random as you can get,........At least the perps are PC and are practicing "diversity"........ ;-)
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posted on
10/04/2002 5:20:36 AM PDT
by
varon
To: SauronOfMordor
Okay if it is an exit wound then just about any hollow point may have caused this damage. If it is an entry wound then It could be something in the.375 caliber and up range or something along the the lines of a 6mm magnum. It is impossible to be more specific than that because we can not see the wound.
Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown
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posted on
10/04/2002 5:23:17 AM PDT
by
harpseal
To: Jackie222
Evidently a casing's been found. Fox just said it was .223 ammunition
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posted on
10/04/2002 5:25:32 AM PDT
by
piasa
To: kcvl
Anyone know anything about the Prayer of Jabez? Could the shot have been fired at that book in particular? To leave a message?
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posted on
10/04/2002 5:26:45 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
To: SLB
Thanks for the flag.
As for theories involving this series of events, I don't have enough information. There are a variety of viable possibles that have already been floated on this and other threads, including terrorist activity, gang initiations, and thill-kills, although the precision with which this has been conducted would indicate the first postulate more than anything else.
It is also noteworthy that the perps purposefully chose one of the most heavily disarmed areas of our nation in which to conduct their operations. This would give them a longer lifespan, although, if terrorists, I would fully expect such creatures to anticipate dying during the course of their attacks, which gives them another added advantage.
The anxiety that this series of attacks has inspired is exactly what terrorism seeks to accomplish: to destabilize the inhabitants of a society, have them constantly distrustful, worried, and angry with a government that obviously cannot protect them. Civilized society is based on trust -- trust that the person next to you will not arbitrarily seek to harm you, and that they can think likewise. When that is dissolved, so is the society.
One thing is clear: It is the duty of each and every citizen to stay alert, stay armed and take the proper steps in their own defense in situations such as these. Anyone ditty-bopping around in condition white expecting the "authorities to take care of everything" faces a much greater probability of winding up in a bag.
To: mewzilla
FWIW, I think the Prayer of Jabez is found in I Chron., Chapt 4, Verse 10.
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posted on
10/04/2002 5:31:33 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
To: Cincinatus' Wife; Joe Hadenuf; aristeides; abner
Thanks for that article post. Lots of details in it.
To: GreyWolf
Good thinking and I bet our LEOs have those thoughts and more running through their minds right now.
I've been expecting something like this from the Islamic terrorists for some time but it (could) turn out to be a couple of warped kids or even someone else.
I don't see any extra special skills involved in pulling this off.These shooters are just roadhunting with a lot of targets to pick from.
I hope it's not terrorists learning the ropes to pass their experience on to others all over the U.S.or that we see a replay,even as early as today in more places.
CYA.
To: piasa
Fox just said it was .223 ammunition No doubt in my mind now that the AWB will be re-instated in 2004, possibly with even more draconian provision (outright ban on "military style assault weapons"?). VPC and company will milk this for all it's worth.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Police dispelled initial fears that the shootings were racially motivated by stating that the first and last victims were white...Does this statement bother anyone else? Just because white people were killed it can't be racially motivated.
Maybe I'm being a little oversensitive but this seems odd.
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posted on
10/04/2002 5:55:37 AM PDT
by
Damocles
To: Jeremy_Reaban
"I don't know if it was terrorists, but from what I've read, it has to be someone who had some sort of advanced marksmanship training."
Such as your average deer hunter.
Truly, hitting a human-sized target from 100 yards away
with a decent rifle is not that difficult a task.
That said, if this was just a "nut case" as the media
keep trying to say, they would be targeting specific
groups of people, depending on whatever sort of grudge
or fantasy they were working out.
If this is a sleeper cell getting active, just look at
how much panic they have caused with just 6 shots.
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posted on
10/04/2002 5:55:55 AM PDT
by
G-Bear
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Police dispelled initial fears that the shootings were racially motivated by stating that the first and last victims were white...Does this statement bother anyone else? Just because white people were killed it can't be racially motivated.
Maybe I'm being a little oversensitive but this seems odd.
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posted on
10/04/2002 5:56:56 AM PDT
by
Damocles
To: brigette
"What type of rifle or bullet would leave such a large
hole the size of an average coffee cup rim?"
Again, anything you would use to go deer hunting, a soft
or hollow point rifle bullet.
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posted on
10/04/2002 5:59:09 AM PDT
by
G-Bear
To: All
I doubt the suspect(s) are young thrill-killers. They got their thrill Wed night and to continue the spree 12 hours later (after having the time to reflect on what they'd done) might indicate someone with a more resolute and sinister motive. They started pretty early Thurs morning which might indicate that the shooter had no trouble sleeping (also could indicate that the shooter DID NOT sleep) I would expect young, thrill-killers to stay up late celebrating their adventure and, of course, they could have decided that it was worth continuing as soon as targets were available the next morning. We should consider why the shooting stopped at 10 AM Thurs. morning. Was it getting too risky to carry out the shootings? out of ammo? Lack of targets or was the "operation" complete?
Answers to these questions might help to establish motive. Obviously, at this point and with the little information we have, we can only speclate.....as I have done.
To: JohnHuang2
BLOAT---
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posted on
10/04/2002 6:06:26 AM PDT
by
Flyer
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