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Clinton-Approved Computer Exports Help China Build Atomic Bombs
NewsMax ^ | 10/4/02 | Charles R Smith

Posted on 10/03/2002 7:24:18 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

The Bush administration has accused Sun Microsystems Inc. of violating export rules in high-speed computer sales it made to China during the Clinton administration. According to a letter the company received in February 2002 from the U.S. Commerce Department's Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS), the illegal sales took place in 1997 and 1998. The letter was released on Sept. 30 by Sun in a regulatory filing.

According to the letter, in 1997 Sun sold equipment to a Hong Kong reseller, which later sold the hardware to military organizations in China. Sun officials would not discuss the nature of the equipment.

Sun Computers in PLA Weapons Labs

However, Sun Microsystems has a long history of equipment sales to military users inside China. For example, on Dec. 26, 1996 a Hong Kong reseller for Sun Microsystems, Automated Systems Ltd., sold a supercomputer to the Chinese Scientific Institute, a technical institute under the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

According to documents obtained from the U.S. Commerce Department, the Chinese Scientific Institute is a government laboratory specializing in parallel and distributed processing.

At some point after the sale but before delivery, the computer was sold to Yuanwang Corp. Yuanwang is an entity of the Chinese army unit COSTIND (Commission on Science, Technology, and Industry for National Defense). According to Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) documents, COSTIND oversees nuclear weapons research and design for the Chinese army.

Sun officials claimed in 1997 that they were unaware of the supercomputer transfer to the Chinese nuclear weapons lab. However, according to the Chinese Foreign Ministry, Sun Microsystems was aware of Yuanwang Corp.'s Chinese military ties.

According to the Cox report, the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Trade and Economic Cooperation (MOFTEC) explained that the actual buyer of the computer was the "Yuanwang Corporation" and that Sun was aware of "this corporation's PRC military ties."

In another case, the Clinton administration approved the export of a Sun supercomputer directly to the Yuanwang Group. The Sun supercomputer was moved to the National Defense Technical Institute in Changsha, part of the Lop Nor nuclear weapons facility, for atomic bomb design.

In 1996 the Sun supercomputer sale came to the attention of Frank Deliberti, then the U.S. Commerce Department's deputy assistant secretary for export enforcement. Deliberti gave the information he obtained to Sun Microsystems, which then initiated efforts to have its computer returned. The computer was returned to the United States on Nov. 6, 1997.

Commerce Officials Knew Chinese Company Was Owned by Military

There is ample evidence that Clinton administration officials were aware that Yuanwang was a company owned by the Chinese military. According to the Commerce Department's own documents, official meetings with Chinese army owned companies took place before documented computer transfer to Yuanwang Corp.

The documents include a list of Chinese military owned corporations compiled by Gen. Ding, then commander of COSTIND. The list provides the direct contact phone number of the Chinese army official in charge at Yuanwang Corp.

On April 6, 1994, Defense Intelligence Agency official Col. Blasko sent an unclassified memo to Commerce officials. The memo states that "YUANWANG" Corp. and "GREAT WALL INDUSTRIES" are "significant to the Defense conversion" along with other known PLA-owned companies such as "CHINA NATIONAL NUCLEAR" and "China North" NORINCO.

The Chinese People's Armed Police is also well equipped with Sun-made computer equipment to track, identify and quickly jail any dissidents. Sun Microsystems has a contract with the Chinese version of the Nazi Gestapo, the Public Security Bureau, to make use of instant computer identification of fingerprints.

Clinton Approved the Supercomputer Exports

Yet, Sun could not have made these lucrative export deals without the direct assistance of then-President Bill Clinton. In 1995, Tony Podesta, a powerful Washington lobbyist and brother of John Podesta, then Clinton's White House adviser, had a consortium of top U.S. computer CEOs attend secret meetings inside the White House. The meetings were on computer hardware and software exports to China and Russia.

In 1995, Tony Podesta represented Computer Systems Policy Project. CSPP was a group of computer companies that in 1995 included Apple, AT&T, Compaq, Cray, Data General, Digital Equipment, Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Silicon Graphics, Stratus Computer, Tandem, Unisys and Sun Microsystems.

These major computer corporations, including Sun, sought Clinton's assistance in exporting computers to Russian and Chinese military end users.

According to a May 1995 CSPP document sent to Commerce Secretary Ron Brown, "controls on computer exports to Russia and China for commercial, civil end-users should be eliminated; controls on exports for actual military end-uses may be appropriate until there is greater certainty that neither country poses a threat to U.S. national security."

Secret Meetings Inside the White House

One 1995 secret meeting inside the White House was attended by CSPP Director Ken Kay, then an employee of Podesta Associates. The meeting with Tony Podesta's employee took place while John Podesta was employed at the White House. John Podesta left the employ of the White House and went directly to work for his brother in July 1995.

The meeting occurred just before Clinton changed supercomputer policy. Within weeks, Russian and Chinese military units were buying hundreds of U.S.-made computers.

Another Commerce Department letter outlined the lack of concern for U.S. national security by the Clinton administration and the CSPP computer makers. The letter includes an e-mail from then Commerce Undersecretary Dave Barram dated Jan. 3, 1996.

According to Undersecretary Barram, "Terrorist activity" was of no concern to the corporate members of CSPP. "They aren't likely to think the risk society avoids for however long offsets the economic risk to American industry."

Unsaid in the memo is the fact that David Barram, former CEO of Cray Corp., then the leading supercomputer maker in America, was also a former member of CSPP.

GAO Critical of Computer Export Policy

In 1999, the General Accounting Office released a scathing report critical of Clinton's high-tech export policy. According to the GAO, "the President's July 1999 report to Congress did not fully satisfy the reporting requirements of the Defense Authorization act."

Overall, only 3 percent of all computer licenses were for "sensitive" end-users such as foreign military units. The GAO noted that the Clinton administration issued more than 1,900 licenses for high-speed computers to communist China between November 1997 and August 1999. Of the 1,924 computers licensed for China, 48 computers were to "sensitive end-users or uses," or nearly 2.5 percent of all sales to China.

"The [president's] report did address two of the three requirements," wrote the GAO. "To determine the availability of high performance computers in foreign countries and the potential use of the newly decontrolled computers for significant military use. These applications include advanced aircraft design, anti-submarine warfare sensor development, and radar applications."

Clinton's report "did not, however, assess the impact of such military use on the national security interests of the United States," wrote the GAO. "Instead, the report discussed the economic importance of a strong U.S. computer industry to U.S. national security. The President's report concluded that failure to adjust U.S. export requirements for computers and processors would have a significant negative effect on the U.S. computer industry."

"The [Clinton] report implied that high-performance computers are readily available for foreign sources," states the GAO. "A 1998 study sponsored by DOD [Department of Defense] and Commerce found that the United States dominates the international computer market."

U.S. Computers Designed New Chinese Atomic Bombs

Sun Microsystems says it is now in settlement talks. The Bush administration has given the computer maker until Nov. 1 to respond to the accusations. Sun said it would defend itself against the charges if the settlement talks fail.

"We expect to reach a resolution on this, and it will not have a materially adverse effect on Sun," stated company spokesman Andy Lark.

If Sun is found to have violated the regulations, it could face financial penalties or the loss of its export privileges. America and its allies will not be so lucky as to pay a price in mere money. The Chinese army used U.S.-made computers such as those sold by Sun to help design a new family of lightweight nuclear weapons.

One such newly developed weapon, the Dong Feng 31 (DF-31) missile, is capable of showering U.S. cities with accurate and very powerful atomic bombs. The People's Liberation Army recently announced that it would be testing a DF-31 in the next few weeks. The U.S. military expects the DF-31 to be actively deployed by the end of 2003.

The economic impact of losing sales was far more important to Clinton and his Big Business backers than U.S. national security. As a result, Beijing is deploying nuclear weapons designed and built using American supercomputers.

These new weapons threaten all human life on Earth with the risk of extinction. We can only thank U.S. computer makers such as Sun and Bill Clinton for taking such a risk with our lives over something as important as money.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: china; clinton; computers; sunmicrosystems

1 posted on 10/03/2002 7:24:18 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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2 posted on 10/03/2002 7:24:43 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
It's absolutely sickening how the Klintoon administration and business sold out America. They should all be punished as traitors. If America ever suffers as a result I hope the lot of them are hung.
3 posted on 10/03/2002 7:30:55 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"They will the rope to hang them".....Duh!..
4 posted on 10/03/2002 7:33:15 PM PDT by hosepipe
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To: Texas_Jarhead
The timing of this is, in two words, absolutely superb.

And yes, Clinton should be hung, even though he already thinks he is. :)

5 posted on 10/03/2002 7:35:54 PM PDT by pray4liberty
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Let us hope that the Clintoon legacy goes no further than 9-11!
6 posted on 10/03/2002 7:36:19 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: Bush2000
Check this out...I think you were on the thread about Sun and it's sales/exports..
7 posted on 10/03/2002 7:41:34 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
To heck with security.....its about the economy stupid..>clitoon
8 posted on 10/03/2002 8:03:00 PM PDT by TUX
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To: TheDon
Nah. It'll go MUCH farther than 911. You'll know how far it will go with the first nuclear exchange in SE asia when Pakistan and India get into it!

And keep something else in mind folks. They didn't just sell the 3-4 that are mentioned in this article.

These traitors sold these enemies over 100 of these supercomputers!! Frankly, I wish they'd just sold them the bombs. Now they'll be able to remake their entire military, from uniforms to weapons to ships, planes, tanks to nukes.

This has the potential to be horrendous.

It's already making George orwell a prophet in truth. The ChiCom govt is the enemy of its people. It has guards stationed at the borders with cell phones and they can use a satellite uplink to scan databases of people in these supercomputers to nail dissidents at the border, turning them back or arresting them to be tortured for being enemies of the state.

9 posted on 10/03/2002 8:21:28 PM PDT by America's Resolve
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To: Texas_Jarhead
God is going to save America. It will be the first nation converted into His Kingdom. The wicked who tried to destroy it, will repent or perish.

Isaiah 2
2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

10 posted on 10/03/2002 8:28:11 PM PDT by Russell Scott
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The great Clinton tech economy. The most dispicable traitor in American history. Too sickening to even contemplate....
11 posted on 10/03/2002 8:36:28 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Texas_Jarhead
http://www.sun.com/contact/feedback/?url=http://www.sun.com/products/
12 posted on 10/03/2002 8:50:30 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"...in 1997 Sun sold equipment to a Hong Kong reseller, which later sold the hardware to military organizations in China"

There ain't no Statute of Limitations on TREASON...MUD

13 posted on 10/03/2002 8:52:34 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: America's Resolve
"The ChiCom govt is the enemy of its people..."

Yes...just as Sodom is the enemy of the Iraqi people. And by helping to accelerate the Chi-Com's nuclear program by 20-25 years, Clinton has delayed the Chinese people's liberation by how many years?!

The EffeteElite ClintonCadre is in bed with Tyrants accross the Globe...MUD

14 posted on 10/03/2002 8:56:57 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
So if the Suns hadn't been sold then, would China have no bomb, or have not gotten it so soon? I don't believe that for a second. Simulations of physical processes tend to work quite well on large arrays of mediocre processors, and China could have easily run its simulations right in the USA if it had had to. China now cranks out Pentium based computers for sale in the USA that have more kick than those Suns did. This is well intended, but misguided.
15 posted on 10/03/2002 10:29:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

16 posted on 10/05/2002 12:47:57 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: HiTech RedNeck
So if the Suns hadn't been sold then, would China have no bomb, or have not gotten it so soon? I don't believe that for a second. Simulations of physical processes tend to work quite well on large arrays of mediocre processors, and China could have easily run its simulations right in the USA if it had had to. China now cranks out Pentium based computers for sale in the USA that have more kick than those Suns did. This is well intended, but misguided.

Please check further into the "massive" espionage campaign which occurred during the administration as well. Ask yourself what information became "available" in addition to the hardware and reanalyze your conclusion.

17 posted on 10/05/2002 1:34:28 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
That makes my point even more obvious. If technical equipment and expertise was pouring into China like a river, what does a drop more or less mean.
18 posted on 10/05/2002 5:03:14 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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