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'Fair ballot choice' ruled for NJ - RATS can replace Torricelli, court says; GOP out to block move
Associated Press ^ | October 3, 2002 | Associated Press Staff

Posted on 10/03/2002 2:13:27 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP


'Fair ballot choice' ruled for NJ

Democrats can replace Torricelli, court says; GOP out to block move

10/03/2002

Associated Press

TRENTON, N.J. - The New Jersey Supreme Court ruled unanimously Wednesday that the Democratic Party can replace Sen. Robert Torricelli on the November ballot, giving hope to Democrats scrambling to retain control of the Senate.

The court cited previous rulings that said election law should be broadly interpreted to "allow parties to put their candidates on the ballot, and most importantly, to allow the voters a choice."

Allowing the Democrats to replace Mr. Torricelli with former Sen. Frank Lautenberg, the justices said, was a move "in favor of a full and fair ballot choice for the voters of New Jersey."

Republicans have vowed to take the case to the U.S. Supreme Court if necessary, arguing that under New Jersey law, Mr. Torricelli's withdrawal from the race came too late for a replacement and that Democrats shouldn't be allowed to dump a candidate who was trailing GOP nominee Douglas Forrester in the polls.

Republican officials said they planned to file a motion in federal court Thursday to block any move that would alter ballots already sent to military personnel and civilians overseas.

The court fight over who will appear on the ballot is key: Democrats hold a single-seat majority in the Senate.

The dispute erupted after Mr. Torricelli dropped out of the race Monday, saying his campaign had been overwhelmed by ethics questions. He was admonished over the summer by a Senate committee for allegedly taking lavish campaign gifts from a campaign donor.

Late Tuesday, top state Democrats settled on Mr. Lautenberg, 78, as their substitute candidate.

In a three-hour hearing Wednesday, the justices - four Democrats, two Republicans and one independent - asked whether it was possible to print and pay for new ballots in time for the election and whether it was fair to bend the rules to accommodate the Democrats' request.

The justices ruled that the state Democratic Party must pay for ballots to be reprinted, which state election officials estimate will cost $800,000.


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dallas/nation/stories/100302dnnattorricelli.12939.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: newjersey; njsupremecourt; senaterace
The court cited previous rulings that said election law should be broadly interpreted to "allow parties to put their candidates on the ballot, and most importantly, to allow the voters a choice."

Earth to SCONJ: The people made their choice. It was Torricelli !

The dispute erupted after Mr. Torricelli dropped out of the race Monday, saying his campaign had been overwhelmed by ethics questions. He was admonished over the summer by a Senate committee for allegedly taking lavish campaign gifts from a campaign donor.
No, what he said was:
Noting that Democratic control of the Senate is at stake in the Nov. 5 general election, Mr. Torricelli said: "I could not stand the pain if any failing on my part will do damage to the things and the people that I have fought for all of my life."
SCONJ is legislating from the bench. SCOTUS should overturn this, and blast SCONJ in the process, imho....

1 posted on 10/03/2002 2:13:27 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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I was out most of yesterday afternoon and am just now catching up to this news. Bad news. A unanimous decision? Sheesh ! It sure seems to me the law was written to prevent a loser from being dumped and putting in a shiny new nickel at the last minute. I sure hope that SCOTUS turns this around.

I'm goin' to Bally's for a workout. Be back later folks.

2 posted on 10/03/2002 2:29:08 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing; Jim Robinson; Pokey78; JohnHuang2
In taking this action, the RICO-racketeering SCONJ MOST CERTAINLY has crossed the line in the sand last crossed, during Al Goreleone's attempt to reverse the outcome of the 2000 presidential election, by the Florida court.

This battle is for the preservation of Our Beloved FRaternal Republic -- and loosing it is not an option!
3 posted on 10/03/2002 2:29:41 AM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: MeeknMing
Late Tuesday, top state Democrats settled on Mr. Lautenberg, 78, as their substitute candidate.

Next time they should save the money they have to spend on a Primary and let the "top state Democrats" pick the right guy in the first place! ;-)

4 posted on 10/03/2002 2:29:58 AM PDT by SubMareener
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To: MeeknMing
And when the dottering old wretch, Lautenberg shows he is mentally incompetent to run and his number tank 5 days before election, we postpone election day and find another Dim to run. I could puke, this is so rotten.
5 posted on 10/03/2002 2:31:48 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: MeeknMing
So much for the Democratic voters in the primary that chose Torricelli for their candidate. The Democratic theory of not just vote but vote often is being proven here. I've seen both the Florida supreme court and NJ supreme court in action on C-span. I regret to say, the Florida supreme court seems like an incarnation of Solomon compared to this bunch of imbeciles in the New Jersey tribunal.
6 posted on 10/03/2002 2:33:12 AM PDT by meenie
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To: MeeknMing
AP seems to have missed the critical aspect of Toricelli's motive that he spelled out in his speech. He didn't want the dems to lose control in the Senate, the sole reason for all this hoopla.

Of course the SCONJ hacks had to contrive a different reason for interpreting into oblivion legislation that was crafted to prevent exactly this sort of scenario. Giving voters a choice. Huh? To save my life I can't see where that's an issue or how the remedy even touches on voter choice, much less expands it. These moron justices must have counted on there being no federal review of their decision and just wrote up a legally absurd rationale that sounded good to the rank and file so they could give the dems a leg up in the Senate.

7 posted on 10/03/2002 2:37:01 AM PDT by fire and forget
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Two other "things" stand out in this decision.

#1. There were supposed to be three Republicans on this court.

#2.Two of the Dem justices were contributors to Torch's campaign. They threw their money away as well as their support.

8 posted on 10/03/2002 2:42:22 AM PDT by meenie
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To: MeeknMing
Contact NJ Governor: http://www.state.nj.us/governor/govmail.html and let him know what you think.
9 posted on 10/03/2002 3:28:59 AM PDT by dyed_in_the_wool
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To: MeeknMing
This highlights several reasons America is about done.

Power in government is now about control of the judiciary. Democrats in the Senate are blocking federal judicial appointments of those individuals whose ideology is not in agreement with theirs. They have surrendered hope in achieving majorities to pass their wildest crap in the legislative branch. They have been reduced to the pursuit of judicial lawmaking. The judiciary is fully cooperative and happy to usurp legislative authority to make up the law as they go along.

The two major parties are not far apart on the big, bigger, biggest government agenda anymore. Elections are now almost completely about who appoints judges. The Democrats have made no secret about that in their illegal efforts to rig the Florida election of 2000 and this New Jersey election.

Unelected judges now overrule laws, initiatives and referenda without little hesitation and are a key element in the road to destruction of our constitution and our system of checks and balances. We can now count on courts to do the wrong thing and ignore the will of the people and to disregard the system under which we are supposed to live.

10 posted on 10/03/2002 3:47:10 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: MeeknMing
most importantly, to allow the voters a choice."

Why even bother to have primaries? There should be a price to pay for leaving the agreed upon system merely because you percieved that you were losing.

11 posted on 10/03/2002 4:39:43 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
There are two federal issues here for SCOTUS to review, but they won't touch this case in my view- the last thing they want to do is take on each of the 50 states election laws- there would be a gazillion cases coming at them each election- not something they are interested in at all for the federal courts.

Notwithstanding that, there is a federal regulation/statute that requires overseas ballots be sent at least 35 days before the election. That time has passed.

Second, the question concerning the voting rights act- is it within the authority of the states to cancel the ballots of individuals who already voted by absentee ballot?

Finally, if I were a federal judge presented with this issue, I would place a stay on the New Jersey decision and require the primary candidate (Torch) remain on the ballot under the 51 day NJ rule and require the state to show cause why NJ should be allowed to violate the 35 day requirement.

It's that simple- no great dilemna, no "political issue".
My holding dictum would mention:

"The NJ court may interpret NJ election statutes specifying 51 days as the cut-off date to replace a candidate's name on a ballot as not being in the interest of a "fair election", but federal statutes and regulations covering federal office elections can not be ignored to accomplish the harmonizing of state statutes. On its face, it appears the NJ court rushed its deliberation process, (noting one day to decide the issue), and in doing so, wholly failed to consider federal regulations for overseas ballots."

This is so clear cut, it's painfully easy to decide. That's all this would take and the Dems would be sent packing.

Also, a Federal Court could note in a foward leaning manner-
The reason such rules are in place and must be adherred to is so that in the event the new candidate is successful, his election is not also challenged under the federal 35 day overseas rule. The NJ court failed to find a resolution to the conflict within their own statutes which also maintains an ordely election process under federal regulations.




12 posted on 10/03/2002 4:40:19 AM PDT by GotDangGenius
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To: MeeknMing
There is one, very scary, conclusion:

To the elite, the Law means nothing. The law makers and law interpreters feel they are not subject to the same laws they hold over the non-elitests (us) continually, and at the point of a gun.

Anarchy reigns...

13 posted on 10/03/2002 5:14:43 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase
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To: MeeknMing
Here in Massachusetts Mitt Romney is flaming out in the Governors race.
Can I get John Silber to replace him?
14 posted on 10/03/2002 5:17:16 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: dyed_in_the_wool
Thank you...
15 posted on 10/03/2002 6:10:21 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Brian Allen; SubMareener; Lion Den Dan; fire and forget; meenie; dyed_in_the_wool; ...
Check this out, folks - by JohnHuang2........

Iraq resolution introduced in Senate
[Small Wonder Democrats Have Become A Laughingstock]

Excerpt:

But what can be said of a party which refuses to denounce treasonous scum like McDermott and Bonior, who argue the real threat isn't in Baghdad but in the White House?

Here's what Democrats would probably tell you privately: 'But ... but ... but, Torricelli had no choice but to bail. Having Torricelli's name on the ballot is like having Mullah Omar on the ballot. I mean, the guy's as radioactive as baby milk factories in Baghdad; about as popular with voters as Pat Robertson at an atheist rally, Ken Lay at an Enron stockholders' meeting, or the 'Pledge of Allegiance' at one of our party conventions.'

'Heck, we're only trying to give voters in New Jersey a choice', they will say.

Ah, yeah, sure -- and Barbra Barbara Striesand is a great speller and Saddam Hussein can be trusted and Bill Clinton did not have sex with 'that woman' and Martha Stewart did not have insider trading with that man and Maxine Waters is a rocket scientist and the Baath Party is a human rights organization and O.J. was "framed" by the LAPD.

Democrats argue they need not be bound by laws, rules or deadlines. After all, they're Democrats, i.e., they're special. Yes, laws should apply equally to all -- no quarrel there, they say. It's only fair. But to be even fairer, laws should apply more equally to some than to others.

16 posted on 10/03/2002 6:18:53 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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17 posted on 10/03/2002 6:21:14 AM PDT by Mo1
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18 posted on 10/03/2002 6:55:43 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: MeeknMing
When a court is deciding an issue of what the "intent" of a state law is, like the SCONJ was doing, it seems to me that a major part of the hearing should include lawyer(s) or representatives of the state legislature. Who would have better insight into the legislature's intent? Unless I missed it that was not a part of yesterday's hearing. Why not? Is there some "separation of powers" thing at issue?
19 posted on 10/03/2002 7:06:45 AM PDT by FairWitness
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