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California: High school graduation test results released
Sac Bee ^ | 9/30/02 | Associated Press and Bee Metro Staff

Posted on 09/30/2002 6:31:45 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:45:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

More than half of the high school students who took the state's high school graduation test this spring failed its math and English sections, meaning they will have to retake the test or they won't receive a high school diploma.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; california; education; testresults
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1 posted on 09/30/2002 6:31:45 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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More than half of the high school students who took the state's high school graduation test this spring failed its math and English sections, meaning they will have to retake the test or they won't receive a high school diploma.

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2 posted on 09/30/2002 6:32:57 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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But critics have argued that the test, given to 10th-graders, unfairly hurts low-income and minority students

IF the think "the test" is tough, what are they going to do about "the job market"?


3 posted on 09/30/2002 6:34:11 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: NormsRevenge
I remember taking this test. After 4 years of them letting me use a calculator for everything, I almost forgot how to do long division, which is something they test. Public school was a helluva lot of fun but I really didn't learn that much. I got straight As anyway. It being so easy made me really worry what the kids who were failing where up to.
4 posted on 09/30/2002 6:40:07 PM PDT by Odyssey-x
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To: NormsRevenge
Imagine that.. kids still have to know Math and English to pass..all that diversity and homosexual training aren't worth much in the real world.
5 posted on 09/30/2002 6:41:04 PM PDT by goodieD
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To: NormsRevenge
I'd like to see the test itself. I bet it isn't much.
6 posted on 09/30/2002 6:44:32 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: NormsRevenge
But critics have argued that the test, given to 10th-graders, unfairly hurts low-income and minority students because they don't have access to the same educational resources as more affluent students.

How can they argue that a test that is exactly the same given to different students is unfair? It's likely that more money is spent on the minority students than on the white students too, at least the ones in bilingual ed actually use more money.

7 posted on 09/30/2002 6:45:30 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: RobFromGa
Maybe ya'll should take a look at Floriuhs new standards, courtesy of Jeb.

While I have a few missgivings about teaching to the Test, at least the students spend more time on real academic skills instead of "innovative" social indoctrination experiments.

Vote Simon, you might get a chance to try it. I have heard it's the new "trend".Something to do with its measurable success.

8 posted on 09/30/2002 6:46:16 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: The Other Harry
They have standardized tests like that in Texas which some claim are unfair for the same reasons but they're very easy tests according to my kids and their friends.
9 posted on 09/30/2002 6:49:09 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: The Other Harry
You can go to a book store and buy a copy of the CBest test, which is given to teachers. It is based on twelfth grade study level, and many of the teachers can't pass it.
10 posted on 09/30/2002 6:50:50 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: NormsRevenge
"Although a large percentage of our students perform at or above state goals delineated by rigorous academic content standards,

This is a lie of the highest order. Is there anyone out there who believes this?

That said, my opinion is that when students continue to fail in large numbers - the end result being that they are held back and cost the state more money - the tests themselves will be watered down so there will be more "successes" for the educrats to report. You know, kind of like lowering the hoop so everyone can make a basket.

And what will happen to the students who fail 7 times? Are they going to test them an 8th time, or quietly punt them out the door, hoping no one will notice?

11 posted on 09/30/2002 6:50:57 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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12 posted on 09/30/2002 6:51:28 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: NormsRevenge
They'll cheat and most all will pass. What else do you expect from a former lovely state that has become as corrupt as New Joisie?
13 posted on 09/30/2002 6:51:49 PM PDT by chemainus
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To: sarasmom
Gettin' Back to the Basics .. Readin' Writin' and Rhythmatic. Sounds like a damn risky scheme, But these times do warrant radical action, it would appear. ;-)

I feel for the kids that sit in the classrooms being fed the same old tired dogma day in and day out.
14 posted on 09/30/2002 6:55:25 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
So if the kids can pass the test at age 15 or 16, can they graduate? Seems to me that'd only be fair.
15 posted on 09/30/2002 7:11:53 PM PDT by cryptical
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; ElkGroveDan; Gophack; DougLorenz
Ping... red meat here...
16 posted on 09/30/2002 7:11:58 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: NormsRevenge
Fresno Unified (third largest school district in the state).

78% failed the math test.

62% failed the English test.

One would guess that the conseling office is preparing their drop outs for grape picking as a career.

17 posted on 09/30/2002 7:13:02 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: NormsRevenge
The math test is super easy, too.
Here's a link to the sample test...
http://csmp.ucop.edu/cmp/directors/downloads/chsee_math.pdf
18 posted on 09/30/2002 7:26:26 PM PDT by rivercat
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To: goodieD
all that diversity and homosexual training aren't worth much in the real world.

Maybe not in the real world, but in the world that they may end up in, prison, it will come in very handy, but not in the way the left intended. They will find out that the theoretical concepts of diversity and sexual orientation tolerance don't apply when evil doers are left to their own devices.

California voters owe it to their kids to make sure that they learn life skills in school that lead them on upward paths, not ones that set them up for failure.

19 posted on 09/30/2002 7:27:57 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: NormsRevenge
I actually went to school in El Dorado County 75-83, and I did get a decent education. That particular county is middle to upper-middle income for the most part, with a sprinkling of well-off ranchers, farmers, and entrepreneurs. Not 'wealthy' like Marin or the other coastal counties. El Dorado has doggedly resisting changes from the valley and GayBay types. But it is still eroding, slowly but surely.
20 posted on 09/30/2002 7:50:40 PM PDT by thescourged1
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