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Shippers lock out longshoremen at West Coast ports
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Posted on 09/27/2002 3:15:27 PM PDT by RCW2001
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To: July 4th
Thanks for the reply...seems way out of line to me.Doesn't it though??? I agree....All people that work on the labor side of the system should be required to work for minimum wage...
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posted on
09/27/2002 4:48:48 PM PDT
by
Iscool
To: RCW2001
I suppose they'll just start hiring Chinese "longshoremen" through the H1B visa program...
To: RCW2001
If necessary, Bush will keep the ports open through an EO enforced by the US Army.
Not to ensure the flow of commercial goods, which may not move, but to ensure the transport of military equipment in a time of war.
Should the Union try to interfere with this, they will be jailed at the barrel of a gun.
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posted on
09/27/2002 5:39:51 PM PDT
by
Mariner
To: MonroeDNA
Six figures for moving levers? For real? And then there are those here that feel American software engineers are asking too much when they expect to get paid $70,000 a year, as such they find that it's a good idea to replace them with cheap indentured servants from India and elsewhere...
To: RCW2001
A Quote Comes To Mind.....
"But Gentlemen , We Must Do Something To Save Our Phoney Baloney Jobs"Blazing Saddles
Fire These Bozo's!!!!
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posted on
09/27/2002 6:38:08 PM PDT
by
cmsgop
To: Rocksalt
On the other hand it might be a lot of US made products getting sold instead.Yeah, like those Nike sneakers manufactured in the U.S., or, I know, the Calvin Klein jeans, manufactured in U.S., or, maybe, those Game Boys manufactured in the U.S. Is the irony dripping yet?
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posted on
09/27/2002 6:53:47 PM PDT
by
SBeck
To: SBeck
So you are saying that it might be reality that more US made goods might actually be marketed as a result of this. I'm trying to figure this out. I'm no economist,thats for sure.
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posted on
09/27/2002 7:07:05 PM PDT
by
Rocksalt
To: RCW2001
God bless the shipping association! Let's hope they break the back of the longshoremen. Then on to the airline union bastards. NO MORE goverment handouts of the airlines while the unions wont take pay cuts!!! All America is tightening their belts, except the damn union vermin.
To: Mariner
Dream on. I find it amazing that FReepers become big-gov't jackboots when unions are involved.
If the work is so damned important, pay the longshoremen what they want, and be done with it.
If the work isn't important enough to keep management from locking out the workers, then why have the gov't step in and start pointing guns?
You statist FReepers amaze me.
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posted on
09/27/2002 8:08:29 PM PDT
by
Orion
To: montag813
Let's just pass a law which mandates that all hourly workers receive minimum wage. Anyone who does not report for work - off to XRAY!!!
That should make all FReepers happy.
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posted on
09/27/2002 8:10:45 PM PDT
by
Orion
To: Orion
Let's just pass a law which mandates that all hourly workers receive minimum wage. Anyone who does not report for work - off to XRAY!!! Minimum wage? Are you joking? $20/hr to change a freakin light bulb or sit behind a desk and sleep? Union wages are just another form of welfare.
To: montag813
I am hearing that the injury claims and Workers Compensation filings are skyrocketing among the Longshoremen.
You can bet the rent, most of these are fraudulent claims. This will end up hurting all of us.
To: FormerLurker
You're right, but then software designers don't have Tom Daschole and the DNC protecting them.
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posted on
09/27/2002 9:13:08 PM PDT
by
Eva
To: Eva
You're right, but then software designers don't have Tom Daschole and the DNC protecting them. Sorry Eva, but the biggest proponants of the H1B visa program are Republicans....
To: BBT
Figures.
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posted on
09/27/2002 9:18:16 PM PDT
by
A CA Guy
To: Orion
Give it a rest. You are conversing with the adults here.I grew up in car-town union central.I wittnessed the self-destruction of the US labor pool.
My brother is a union steward, and I have heard his rants about worthless,drunken workers he is forced to defend against all logic and fairness.But he will not take a stand for management-lest the EVIL owners regain controll of the company they sweated blood to bring into life.
There is no "cure" for willfull stupidity.
Are we a free country or have we devolved into socialism?
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posted on
09/27/2002 9:41:23 PM PDT
by
sarasmom
To: Orion
"Statist FReepers"
I was not suggesting that govt interfere in a labor dispute, just that they will use troops to ensure the movement of military cargo........and that they would jail anyone who interferes with that.
Right or wrong.
I consider it both undesirable and unlikely that the govt will intervene in the commercial dispute.
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posted on
09/27/2002 9:50:59 PM PDT
by
Mariner
To: montag813
Are you joking? $20/hr to change a freakin light bulb or sit behind a desk and sleep? Union wages are just another form of welfare. I've done work for various union members and was thankful they had the money to hire me...I've never done any work for anyone that was willing to do their job for less money though.
American Longshoremen contribute more to America than the Chinese sweat shops making the crap they're unloading...American Union members getting a piece of the import pie?...More power to them.
To: montag813
Why is it that to be a FReeper, you must be reflexivly anti-union?
If it is in the contract that changing lightbulbs is $20/hr, then so be it.
Is it any less welfare that some get paid 8 figures to run a company that loses money? If the board is dumb enough to pay them the money, then so be it.
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posted on
09/27/2002 10:25:23 PM PDT
by
Orion
To: montag813
Minimum wage? Are you joking? $20/hr to change a freakin light bulb or sit behind a desk and sleep? H1B software engineers earn less than that....
to the detriment of US workers.
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