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1 posted on 09/24/2002 1:07:30 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
The fish had it coming to them.
2 posted on 09/24/2002 1:55:14 PM PDT by ThreeYearLurker
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To: chance33_98
"...are dying at Blue Creek, 16 miles upriver."

"The water released from the Iron Gate Reservoir is warm, as much as 72 degrees fahrenheit."

Okay - they are blaming water quality from the (Upper) Klamath Basin, which is hours and hours away from 16 miles from the mouth of the Klamath where this took place. The water in the Klamath Basin is stored in shallow wetland lakes exposed to sun and the ambient air temperature is in the 90s-100s. The people in the Klamath Basin have pointed out that more water from them means more hot water. That's a fact of nature.

There isn't going to be a vast amount of cold water coming from the mid-Klamath, either. The Shasta River has the shallow lake Shastina for storage, which is also hot. On the Scott, the snow pack from last year has already melted and it hasn't rained lately. There is no storage. People have finished farming and are harvesting. You can't blame the farmers. Most are no longer irrigating. Water levels won't come back in the streams until heavy frost when the trees stop transpiring and the fall rains come. That is the cycle.

Hopes are that someday these "brilliant" (Humboldt State) biologists will rejoin the real world and realize that these Klamath system inland salmon live on the southern extremities of the species' range and, if climate trends continue as they have, they are frequently going to encounter inhospitable temperature conditions early in the spawning season.

You can't demand conditions based on salmon needs that are beyond the natural variability of the system. You can't demand mitigation for nature.

By the way, why aren't they looking at increased cold water flows from Blue Creek as the solution? No source? Well, why doesn't that logic apply to the mid and upper Klamath as well? Can you say political manipulation of public opinion?
3 posted on 09/24/2002 2:22:07 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: chance33_98
What about the suckers? The suckers?
4 posted on 09/24/2002 2:39:08 PM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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To: chance33_98
Don't salmon die after running up river to spawn?
5 posted on 09/24/2002 2:54:36 PM PDT by CPOSharky
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To: *Klamath_List; farmfriend
Index Bump
6 posted on 09/24/2002 3:11:08 PM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Jeff Head
ping
12 posted on 09/24/2002 11:21:28 PM PDT by kayak
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To: chance33_98
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm salmon!
17 posted on 09/25/2002 5:24:24 PM PDT by irradiateiraq
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To: chance33_98
This story sounds fishy to me.
19 posted on 09/25/2002 9:13:11 PM PDT by mtg
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35 posted on 09/29/2002 12:46:47 AM PDT by Mo1
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