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GERMAN ELECTION (Running Thread): Schroeder by a Nosehair
Die Welt- translated ^ | 9/22/02 | Die Welt

Posted on 09/22/2002 7:45:04 AM PDT by RobFromGa

Election turnout probably smaller than 1998
 

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Berlin/Rostock (dpa) - with the election to the Bundestag a smaller participation than before drew four years starting from 1998 lay it Germany far with 82,2 per cent in the late Sunday afternoon. However the returning officers reported high letter voter at the same time of a ratio. Everywhere the letter voters were not already taken in account. Thus a factor of uncertainty remained existing.

As one inquires around approximately three hours before locking of the polling stations resulted in, to against 15.00 o'clock in most Lands of the Federal Republic a clearly lower election turnout was registered. In Saxonia-Anhalt the participation lay at this time approximately 15 points under the values of the yearly 1998, in other Lands of the Federal Republic up to eight points. Also in the capital went to Berlin with herbstlich to cool weather clearly less voter to the urns.

On the other hand there was the tendency in few other Lands of the Federal Republic also to an easily higher election turnout - in such a way in Schleswig-Holstein and in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, where at the same time a new federal state parliament was selected.

In Saxonia the returning officers spoke first of a surprisingly large resonance, then the interest decreased/went back however clearly. Also in Bavaria the choice encountered in the first hours in some cities a substantially larger interest than 1998. There the participation up to 12 per cent points in the comparison rose to the same time before four years. Against noon this tendency decreased/went back likewise, of a clear minus was later spoken. It was similar in North Rhine-Westphalia and Hamburg.

From other Lands of the Federal Republic a rather weak resonance was determined. In Hessen, Thuringia, Saarland and Bremen the values decreased/went back. Also in Rhineland-Palatinate, Brandenburg and Lower Saxony the crush was smaller than 1998. In Baden-Wuerttemberg it meant: Election turnout constantly.

The polling stations for the election to the Bundestag had opened o'clock punctually at 08.00. 61,2 million Federal citizen were called to select a new parliament. With the election of the federal parliament in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania were entitled to vote about 1.4 million citizen.

After last inquiries and prognoses to the exit the SPD with Federal Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder was appropriate for the election to the Bundestag scarcely before the union with her candidate for the chancellorship Edmund Stoiber (CSU). Since also the smaller parties FDP and the Green were strongly estimated approximately in each case equal, the continuation of the red-green coalition was considered as uncertain. For a government majority in the parliament it could be crucial whether the Party of Democratic Socialism draws again into the Bundestag or not.

The Social Democrats set to come into the proximity of their result from 1998 to. At that time they reached 40.9 per cent of the secondary voices. CDU/CSU had slipped before four years to 35,1 per cent, their secondaryworst result with elections to the Bundestag. The Greens reached 6.7 per cent, the FDP came on 6,2 per cent. The Party of Democratic Socialism overcame the five-per cent hurdle with 5,1 per cent scarcely.

After last inquiries in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania a confirmation of the red-red coalition of SPD and Party of Democratic Socialism under head of the government Harald Ringstorff (SPD) applied as extremely probable. 1998 had the SPD 34.3, which reaches Party of Democratic Socialism 24.4 and the CDU 30.2 per cent.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2002; elections; germany; schroeder; stoiber
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For those of you following the German elections.

Can anyone make any predictions based on this translated article with less than 2 hours to go?

1 posted on 09/22/2002 7:45:04 AM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: RobFromGa
Can anyone make any predictions based on this translated article with less than 2 hours to go?

I predict there will be a winner!

2 posted on 09/22/2002 7:49:07 AM PDT by Drango
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To: RobFromGa
The one guy wins and the other loses ;)

http://www.germanmedia.com/ may help

3 posted on 09/22/2002 7:49:15 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: RobFromGa
I predict Germany and France will have a competition over which is the most rotted-out corpse in Western European.
4 posted on 09/22/2002 7:52:09 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: RobFromGa
It's going to be a close one...

I was just about to open a thread, but you just started one. Thank you.

Swinging my satellite to receive live coverage in about 8 minutes.

5 posted on 09/22/2002 7:52:41 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: chance33_98
thanks for the link.
6 posted on 09/22/2002 7:56:04 AM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: RobFromGa
Also in the capital went to Berlin with herbstlich to cool weather clearly less voter to the urns.

Though disturbing in a way, that sentence has a sing-song quality to it...

7 posted on 09/22/2002 7:56:38 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: RobFromGa

8 posted on 09/22/2002 7:58:47 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: RobFromGa
Click the link below for live Deutsche Welle TV and Radio.

http://dw-world.de/english/0,3367,6591_A_640580_1_A,00.html
9 posted on 09/22/2002 7:59:06 AM PDT by July 4th
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To: Chad Fairbanks
the funny part is that in the original German, this entire article was only ten words long, each word however took up a paragraph.

I know "Herbst" is Fall, so herbstlich might be fall-like? I guess urns are the ballot boxes?

10 posted on 09/22/2002 8:00:11 AM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: eabinga
Was ist das?
11 posted on 09/22/2002 8:01:04 AM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: RobFromGa
Those are the most recent polls by different polling companies.
12 posted on 09/22/2002 8:01:56 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: eabinga
Are any of them except Stoiber's blue team, CDU/CSU, right of center? I know Gree

Is it the blue guys against the rest? Maybe you could take a moment and explain this election to us?

13 posted on 09/22/2002 8:06:17 AM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: RobFromGa
The yellow ones are on our side too, the (classic) liberals (FDP)
14 posted on 09/22/2002 8:07:59 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: RobFromGa
Important: Keep in mind, that the percentages are not all saying. What counts is the number of seats every party gets.

If a party has less than 5%, they don't get any seats.

Also, the germans have two votes, one for their local candidate (kind of like a representative), and on for a political party (which as a slate of candidates).

15 posted on 09/22/2002 8:10:53 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: eabinga
And what exactly determines whether Stoiber or Schroeder comes out on top? Sorry for the stupid questions...
16 posted on 09/22/2002 8:14:24 AM PDT by RobFromGa
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The polling stations for the election to the Bundestag had opened o'clock punctually at 08.00.

Note to Florida: Check with Germany to find out how to run a polling station.

17 posted on 09/22/2002 8:15:34 AM PDT by PaulKersey
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And what exactly determines whether Stoiber or Schroeder comes out on top? Sorry for the stupid questions...

Not a stupid question. The german election system is not a simple one.

Basically what we are hoping for, is that the CSU/CDU (Stoiber) and FDP (Mölleman) together get a majority of the seats so they can form a coalition government. It helps if the Greens and PDS don't pass the 5% hurdle.

What we dont want, is a coalition of SPD, Green and perhaps PDS.

18 posted on 09/22/2002 8:18:43 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: RobFromGa
Oh, there are 598 seats. Half of these seats will go to local candidates, and half will come from party votes.
19 posted on 09/22/2002 8:21:06 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: PaulKersey
Note to Florida: Check with Germany to find out how to run a polling station.

Maybe they could import the poll workers to handle the fall election

I'm just visualizing a bunch of elderly Jewish women showing up at a polling station with the poll workers all being clean-cut young blond men all speaking German to each other ...

20 posted on 09/22/2002 8:23:50 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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