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GERMAN ELECTION (Running Thread): Schroeder by a Nosehair
Die Welt- translated ^ | 9/22/02 | Die Welt

Posted on 09/22/2002 7:45:04 AM PDT by RobFromGa

Election turnout probably smaller than 1998
 

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Berlin/Rostock (dpa) - with the election to the Bundestag a smaller participation than before drew four years starting from 1998 lay it Germany far with 82,2 per cent in the late Sunday afternoon. However the returning officers reported high letter voter at the same time of a ratio. Everywhere the letter voters were not already taken in account. Thus a factor of uncertainty remained existing.

As one inquires around approximately three hours before locking of the polling stations resulted in, to against 15.00 o'clock in most Lands of the Federal Republic a clearly lower election turnout was registered. In Saxonia-Anhalt the participation lay at this time approximately 15 points under the values of the yearly 1998, in other Lands of the Federal Republic up to eight points. Also in the capital went to Berlin with herbstlich to cool weather clearly less voter to the urns.

On the other hand there was the tendency in few other Lands of the Federal Republic also to an easily higher election turnout - in such a way in Schleswig-Holstein and in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, where at the same time a new federal state parliament was selected.

In Saxonia the returning officers spoke first of a surprisingly large resonance, then the interest decreased/went back however clearly. Also in Bavaria the choice encountered in the first hours in some cities a substantially larger interest than 1998. There the participation up to 12 per cent points in the comparison rose to the same time before four years. Against noon this tendency decreased/went back likewise, of a clear minus was later spoken. It was similar in North Rhine-Westphalia and Hamburg.

From other Lands of the Federal Republic a rather weak resonance was determined. In Hessen, Thuringia, Saarland and Bremen the values decreased/went back. Also in Rhineland-Palatinate, Brandenburg and Lower Saxony the crush was smaller than 1998. In Baden-Wuerttemberg it meant: Election turnout constantly.

The polling stations for the election to the Bundestag had opened o'clock punctually at 08.00. 61,2 million Federal citizen were called to select a new parliament. With the election of the federal parliament in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania were entitled to vote about 1.4 million citizen.

After last inquiries and prognoses to the exit the SPD with Federal Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder was appropriate for the election to the Bundestag scarcely before the union with her candidate for the chancellorship Edmund Stoiber (CSU). Since also the smaller parties FDP and the Green were strongly estimated approximately in each case equal, the continuation of the red-green coalition was considered as uncertain. For a government majority in the parliament it could be crucial whether the Party of Democratic Socialism draws again into the Bundestag or not.

The Social Democrats set to come into the proximity of their result from 1998 to. At that time they reached 40.9 per cent of the secondary voices. CDU/CSU had slipped before four years to 35,1 per cent, their secondaryworst result with elections to the Bundestag. The Greens reached 6.7 per cent, the FDP came on 6,2 per cent. The Party of Democratic Socialism overcame the five-per cent hurdle with 5,1 per cent scarcely.

After last inquiries in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania a confirmation of the red-red coalition of SPD and Party of Democratic Socialism under head of the government Harald Ringstorff (SPD) applied as extremely probable. 1998 had the SPD 34.3, which reaches Party of Democratic Socialism 24.4 and the CDU 30.2 per cent.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2002; elections; germany; schroeder; stoiber
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To: July 4th
Radio Deutche Velle is now predicting a right coalition victory. The former commies are not getting the 5% needed to be in the parliament
41 posted on 09/22/2002 9:05:59 AM PDT by brydic1
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To: brydic1
ooooooooooooooooo .. crossing fingers tighter!!!
42 posted on 09/22/2002 9:09:26 AM PDT by thedugal
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To: jackbill
Kopf is the German word for Head!!!

Kopf is, but köpf means to behead... :)

43 posted on 09/22/2002 9:09:28 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: brydic1
Do they have any people named Herr Jeffords over there? this could be close.
44 posted on 09/22/2002 9:09:47 AM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: eabinga
From ft.com

Exit polls say German election too close to call

By Bettina Wassener in Berlin and Uta Harnischfeger in Frankfurt and FT.com staff
Published: September 22 2002 14:44 | Last Updated: September 22 2002 16:56
Stoiber Schroder

As voting ended in Germany's cliffhanger general election on Sunday, exit polls said the result was still too close to call with the two main parties running neck and neck in the country's most closely contested election for decades.

Voter turnout in the first six hours of polling was estimated at 43 per cent, less than the 47 per cent at the same time in the last election in 1998.

The mood throughout the day was one of quiet acceptance that, whatever government emerges from Sunday's vote, radical policy changes or economic improvements were not to be expected.

"Let's be realistic: you can't really expect any great changes to come about given the limits of the resources that are available," said one middle-aged woman as she emerged from a polling station in a school in east Berlin.

"But I'm hoping my vote will at least help influence how those limited resources are prioritised. My key issue is spending on education. I mean, look at this school, it's completely run-down, I want to see a government that aims to provide certain minimum standards across the board in education, not one that focuses on narrow elites."

An entrepreneur, with 30 staff on his payroll, from old Bad Homburg, a dormitory town in the rolling hills outside Frankfurt, admitted that the differences between the CDU/CSU and the governing Social Democrats were not that large.

“The views of Schroder and Stoiber [on economic and business issues] aren't really detrimentally opposed,” he said.

Both mainstream parties generally agree that the German labour market must be deregulated and personal income tax rates must be lowered.


45 posted on 09/22/2002 9:12:35 AM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: RobFromGa
Looks like the two commie seats from the PDS are messing things up for Stoiber...
46 posted on 09/22/2002 9:13:09 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: RobFromGa; Sidebar Moderator
Change "Lower Turnout than 98" to "Too Close To Call"
47 posted on 09/22/2002 9:14:28 AM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: RobFromGa
Voting up 8% in Bavaria (Stoiber's home), down 12% in Lower Saxony (Schroeder's home). Down everywhere else besides Bavaria.

This would be great news for the conservatives, ASSUMING a low turnout in Germany favors them as it does in the US.

48 posted on 09/22/2002 9:14:47 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: eabinga
LOOOOOOOOONGGG faces at the PDS election HQ...ROFL
FDP isnt too happy either...thats bad
49 posted on 09/22/2002 9:14:54 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: eabinga
Greens are cheering like crazy....
50 posted on 09/22/2002 9:15:45 AM PDT by eabinga
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 SPD   CDU   GRN  FDP  PDS Other
37,0% 39,0% 9,5% 7,0% 4,3% 3,2% Infratest   
38,0% 38,0% 9,0% 7,5% 4,0% 3,5% Forschungsgruppe
38,5% 38,0% 9,0% 7,5% 4,0% 3,0% Forsa

From http://www.diewelt.de

51 posted on 09/22/2002 9:16:07 AM PDT by Lessismore
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To: RobFromGa
Too close to call!


52 posted on 09/22/2002 9:16:41 AM PDT by July 4th
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To: eabinga
If PDS does not crack 5 percent, are they excluded? What happens to their two seats?
53 posted on 09/22/2002 9:17:40 AM PDT by copycat
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To: eabinga
Schroeder leads...slim, according to Blitzer on CNN
54 posted on 09/22/2002 9:17:47 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: Lessismore
That's a lot of Greens.
55 posted on 09/22/2002 9:18:43 AM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: eabinga
Totals:

SPD 37.2
Union 38.8
Green 9.4
FDP 7.2
PDS 4.2

Win/Loss

SPD -3.2
Union +3.6
Green +2.7
FDP +1
PDS -0.9

Seats

SPD 240
Union 251
Green 61
FDP 46
PDS 2

56 posted on 09/22/2002 9:18:52 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: copycat
If PDS does not crack 5 percent, are they excluded? What happens to their two seats?

They keep them, those candidates were elected directly in their district.

57 posted on 09/22/2002 9:19:49 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: copycat
My understanding is that they keep the individual seats which they win. The 5% is necessary to get a share of the party list seats.

In the German Bundestag, half of the seats are elected from districts and half are proportionally allocated among the parties based on their total vote in the election (but you must reach 5% to participate).

58 posted on 09/22/2002 9:20:19 AM PDT by writmeister
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To: eabinga
Are these finals? what about the absentee ballots? do they come in later?
59 posted on 09/22/2002 9:20:34 AM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: brydic1
That would be Wundebar! (sorry, don't speak Deutche)
60 posted on 09/22/2002 9:21:02 AM PDT by tomahawk
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