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GERMAN ELECTION (Running Thread): Schroeder by a Nosehair
Die Welt- translated ^ | 9/22/02 | Die Welt

Posted on 09/22/2002 7:45:04 AM PDT by RobFromGa

Election turnout probably smaller than 1998
 

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Berlin/Rostock (dpa) - with the election to the Bundestag a smaller participation than before drew four years starting from 1998 lay it Germany far with 82,2 per cent in the late Sunday afternoon. However the returning officers reported high letter voter at the same time of a ratio. Everywhere the letter voters were not already taken in account. Thus a factor of uncertainty remained existing.

As one inquires around approximately three hours before locking of the polling stations resulted in, to against 15.00 o'clock in most Lands of the Federal Republic a clearly lower election turnout was registered. In Saxonia-Anhalt the participation lay at this time approximately 15 points under the values of the yearly 1998, in other Lands of the Federal Republic up to eight points. Also in the capital went to Berlin with herbstlich to cool weather clearly less voter to the urns.

On the other hand there was the tendency in few other Lands of the Federal Republic also to an easily higher election turnout - in such a way in Schleswig-Holstein and in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, where at the same time a new federal state parliament was selected.

In Saxonia the returning officers spoke first of a surprisingly large resonance, then the interest decreased/went back however clearly. Also in Bavaria the choice encountered in the first hours in some cities a substantially larger interest than 1998. There the participation up to 12 per cent points in the comparison rose to the same time before four years. Against noon this tendency decreased/went back likewise, of a clear minus was later spoken. It was similar in North Rhine-Westphalia and Hamburg.

From other Lands of the Federal Republic a rather weak resonance was determined. In Hessen, Thuringia, Saarland and Bremen the values decreased/went back. Also in Rhineland-Palatinate, Brandenburg and Lower Saxony the crush was smaller than 1998. In Baden-Wuerttemberg it meant: Election turnout constantly.

The polling stations for the election to the Bundestag had opened o'clock punctually at 08.00. 61,2 million Federal citizen were called to select a new parliament. With the election of the federal parliament in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania were entitled to vote about 1.4 million citizen.

After last inquiries and prognoses to the exit the SPD with Federal Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder was appropriate for the election to the Bundestag scarcely before the union with her candidate for the chancellorship Edmund Stoiber (CSU). Since also the smaller parties FDP and the Green were strongly estimated approximately in each case equal, the continuation of the red-green coalition was considered as uncertain. For a government majority in the parliament it could be crucial whether the Party of Democratic Socialism draws again into the Bundestag or not.

The Social Democrats set to come into the proximity of their result from 1998 to. At that time they reached 40.9 per cent of the secondary voices. CDU/CSU had slipped before four years to 35,1 per cent, their secondaryworst result with elections to the Bundestag. The Greens reached 6.7 per cent, the FDP came on 6,2 per cent. The Party of Democratic Socialism overcame the five-per cent hurdle with 5,1 per cent scarcely.

After last inquiries in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania a confirmation of the red-red coalition of SPD and Party of Democratic Socialism under head of the government Harald Ringstorff (SPD) applied as extremely probable. 1998 had the SPD 34.3, which reaches Party of Democratic Socialism 24.4 and the CDU 30.2 per cent.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2002; elections; germany; schroeder; stoiber
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To: eabinga
See you are up in Brunswick. So please swing that receiver in the direction of Deutschland.

Its also Oktoberfest. So my (honorary Freeper) cousin, probably already voted for Stoiber, and has gone to have bier!

We will need to rely on you to give us updated coverage. Or anybody else out there that can.

21 posted on 09/22/2002 8:25:13 AM PDT by CT
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To: PaulKersey
Note to Florida: Check with Germany to find out how to run a polling station.

Here is an interactive example on what a german ballot looks like. Make your "X" and drop it in the box.

http://www.braunschweig.de/extern/stimmzettel/index.html

22 posted on 09/22/2002 8:26:20 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: eabinga
The outcome of the vote will likely hinge on whether the former-communist Party of Democratic Socialism wins enough seats for representation in parliament.

I saw this on a German news site. That looks close based on your polling data with a 5% minimum requirement.

23 posted on 09/22/2002 8:26:45 AM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: CT
So please swing that receiver in the direction of Deutschland.

Watching live coverage now, just a bunch of talk and no relevant information yet. They are talking about a few local districts now, where the PDS (commies) will probably win a seat (some districts in the east).

24 posted on 09/22/2002 8:29:21 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: RobFromGa
Looks like Germany may defeat France to become the most Socialist country.
25 posted on 09/22/2002 8:29:43 AM PDT by LaGrone
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To: RobFromGa
The outcome of the vote will likely hinge on whether the former-communist Party of Democratic Socialism wins enough seats for representation in parliament.

Yes it is crucial for us that the PDS doesn't achieve the 5%. The PDS is expected to get about 3 seats through local candidates.

27 posted on 09/22/2002 8:31:39 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: eabinga
Looks like we'll have a good idea from exit polls in about 25 minutes.
28 posted on 09/22/2002 8:35:17 AM PDT by July 4th
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To: William Creel
If Schroeder wins, I support recalling are ambassador to Germany

Keep calm.

This is an interesting poll:

Do you believe the Government's stance on the US war against terrorism, because these statements were made during the elections?

Yes: 38%
No: 58%
No Comment: 4%

29 posted on 09/22/2002 8:36:09 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: eabinga
What are Sonstige? (undecided?) They are around that 5% mark as well.
30 posted on 09/22/2002 8:37:03 AM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: July 4th
The first results (calculated) should be available at about 12:30 EST
31 posted on 09/22/2002 8:37:15 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: RobFromGa
What are Sonstige? (undecided?) They are around that 5% mark as well.

Basically wasted votes.

There are many more parties on the ballot.

SPD
CDU
CSU
GRÜNE
FDP
PDS
AUFBRUCH
BP
BüSo
CM
DIE FRAUEN
Die Tierschutzpartei
Die Violetten
FAMILIE
GRAUE
HP
KPD
NPD
ödp
PBC
PRG
REP
Schill
Zentrum
Deutschland
DKP
DSU
FP Deutschlands

32 posted on 09/22/2002 8:39:59 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: eabinga
Check out the "Purple Party": Alternative Spritual Politics in the New Age.
33 posted on 09/22/2002 8:42:46 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: RobFromGa
Not looking too good.. crossing fingers...
34 posted on 09/22/2002 8:42:58 AM PDT by thedugal
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To: eabinga
Things that make you go hmmmm: Bill Clinton's wife's name: Hillary Rodham-Clinton

Gerhard Schröder's wife's name: Doris Schröder-Köpf

Why is it that lefty women like these double names?

Like Hertha Däubler-Gmelin...

35 posted on 09/22/2002 8:49:24 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: eabinga
update...

Head-on-head-run with the election to the Bundestag
 

Berlin (dpa) - in a half hour the polling stations for the election to the Bundestag close. Federal returning officer Johann Hahlen proceeds from a smaller participation than before four years. Remarkably strongly this time the briefwahl was used. Altogether were more than 61 million entitled called to deliver their voice. Public opinion analysts count on a head on head running between the red-green Federal Government and the CDU/CSU FDP opposition. The reintroduction of the Party of Democratic Socialism into the Bundestag is still open.


36 posted on 09/22/2002 8:54:49 AM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: RobFromGa
Voting up 8% in Bavaria (Stoiber's home), down 12% in Lower Saxony (Schroeder's home). Down everywhere else besides Bavaria.
37 posted on 09/22/2002 9:02:22 AM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: RobFromGa
Latest exit polls showing CDU ahead of SPD by 2%, but enough Green votes to make a coalition with SPD. It's still extremely close.
38 posted on 09/22/2002 9:03:02 AM PDT by July 4th
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To: RobFromGa
First prognosis:

Seats:

SPD 239
CDU 252
Green 62
FDP 45
PDS 2

SPD and Greens together have a 1 seat majority so far with 301 seats (BAD!)


39 posted on 09/22/2002 9:04:54 AM PDT by eabinga
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To: eabinga
Things that make you go hmmmm:

Gerhard Schröder's wife's name: Doris Schröder-Köpf

Kopf is the German word for Head!!!

Hmmmmm.

Bill Clinton, call your office.

40 posted on 09/22/2002 9:05:10 AM PDT by jackbill
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