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GERMAN ELECTION (Running Thread): Schroeder by a Nosehair
Die Welt- translated ^ | 9/22/02 | Die Welt

Posted on 09/22/2002 7:45:04 AM PDT by RobFromGa

Election turnout probably smaller than 1998
 

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Berlin/Rostock (dpa) - with the election to the Bundestag a smaller participation than before drew four years starting from 1998 lay it Germany far with 82,2 per cent in the late Sunday afternoon. However the returning officers reported high letter voter at the same time of a ratio. Everywhere the letter voters were not already taken in account. Thus a factor of uncertainty remained existing.

As one inquires around approximately three hours before locking of the polling stations resulted in, to against 15.00 o'clock in most Lands of the Federal Republic a clearly lower election turnout was registered. In Saxonia-Anhalt the participation lay at this time approximately 15 points under the values of the yearly 1998, in other Lands of the Federal Republic up to eight points. Also in the capital went to Berlin with herbstlich to cool weather clearly less voter to the urns.

On the other hand there was the tendency in few other Lands of the Federal Republic also to an easily higher election turnout - in such a way in Schleswig-Holstein and in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, where at the same time a new federal state parliament was selected.

In Saxonia the returning officers spoke first of a surprisingly large resonance, then the interest decreased/went back however clearly. Also in Bavaria the choice encountered in the first hours in some cities a substantially larger interest than 1998. There the participation up to 12 per cent points in the comparison rose to the same time before four years. Against noon this tendency decreased/went back likewise, of a clear minus was later spoken. It was similar in North Rhine-Westphalia and Hamburg.

From other Lands of the Federal Republic a rather weak resonance was determined. In Hessen, Thuringia, Saarland and Bremen the values decreased/went back. Also in Rhineland-Palatinate, Brandenburg and Lower Saxony the crush was smaller than 1998. In Baden-Wuerttemberg it meant: Election turnout constantly.

The polling stations for the election to the Bundestag had opened o'clock punctually at 08.00. 61,2 million Federal citizen were called to select a new parliament. With the election of the federal parliament in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania were entitled to vote about 1.4 million citizen.

After last inquiries and prognoses to the exit the SPD with Federal Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder was appropriate for the election to the Bundestag scarcely before the union with her candidate for the chancellorship Edmund Stoiber (CSU). Since also the smaller parties FDP and the Green were strongly estimated approximately in each case equal, the continuation of the red-green coalition was considered as uncertain. For a government majority in the parliament it could be crucial whether the Party of Democratic Socialism draws again into the Bundestag or not.

The Social Democrats set to come into the proximity of their result from 1998 to. At that time they reached 40.9 per cent of the secondary voices. CDU/CSU had slipped before four years to 35,1 per cent, their secondaryworst result with elections to the Bundestag. The Greens reached 6.7 per cent, the FDP came on 6,2 per cent. The Party of Democratic Socialism overcame the five-per cent hurdle with 5,1 per cent scarcely.

After last inquiries in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania a confirmation of the red-red coalition of SPD and Party of Democratic Socialism under head of the government Harald Ringstorff (SPD) applied as extremely probable. 1998 had the SPD 34.3, which reaches Party of Democratic Socialism 24.4 and the CDU 30.2 per cent.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2002; elections; germany; schroeder; stoiber
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Frome Die Presse (Austria) via Babelfish

Starting from 21 o'clock had then again a coalition from SPD and the Green the nose in front. This would come together on 305 mandates; an alliance from CDU/CSU and FDP would come on 298 seats, so the computer forecasts briefly before 22 o'clock.
381 posted on 09/22/2002 1:13:01 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: marajade
Can Schroeder still lose?

Possibly

Anyhow, we can now harp on how he really didn't win because his coalition only got 46.7% of the votes :)

In 1998 it was at 58.4%

382 posted on 09/22/2002 1:13:10 PM PDT by eabinga
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To: Torie
This is absolutely nuts...
383 posted on 09/22/2002 1:13:27 PM PDT by marajade
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To: marajade
They just mentioned mail in votes that might not be counted, which impacts both lists if they are uncounted.
384 posted on 09/22/2002 1:13:52 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
Hey, the TV coverage is just like here. All they interview are liberl/socialist/communists so as to make it look like nobody voted for the conservative (yet they don't explain how it is such a close race).

No wonder these people are sheeple. They are being led down the same sorry path as we are in regards to the way the news is slanted.

Sheesh!

385 posted on 09/22/2002 1:14:33 PM PDT by CT
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To: OldFriend
Thanks, but I thought my #295 was pretty lucid as well.
386 posted on 09/22/2002 1:15:19 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: Torie
The link you gave listed unemployment as a reason why Schroeder lost votes...

I can see why unemployment is so high... The income tax rate is outrageous...
387 posted on 09/22/2002 1:15:19 PM PDT by marajade
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To: Torie
"They just mentioned mail in votes that might not be counted..."

Does that speak well for conservatives over there like it does for Republicans here?
388 posted on 09/22/2002 1:17:42 PM PDT by marajade
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To: marajade
I'm still wondering about those high number of letter votes (absentee ballots) referred to in the original article.
389 posted on 09/22/2002 1:19:41 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: marajade
I don't have a clue. I tend to doubt it. CDU relies a lot on rural folks. I also suspect there are not nearly of the number of those puppies as there are in the US.
390 posted on 09/22/2002 1:20:53 PM PDT by Torie
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To: cicero's_son
Please tell me which office processes applications for Honorary Serb-hood. I'd like to apply.

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391 posted on 09/22/2002 1:22:10 PM PDT by Honorary Serb
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To: Torie
Too bad...

With the way the vote is and breakout I'd say there isn't really a mandate either way in Germany...
392 posted on 09/22/2002 1:22:22 PM PDT by marajade
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To: marajade
Oh no, they are going for the tie-breaker...


393 posted on 09/22/2002 1:23:28 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: RobFromGa
I still its crazy that a parliament can actually gain seats depending upon the number of voters who turn out.. How could there be any stability?
394 posted on 09/22/2002 1:24:41 PM PDT by marajade
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To: RobFromGa
We cannot Tell.
395 posted on 09/22/2002 1:24:45 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: RobFromGa
Schroder is asking for a recount of the Florida votes.
396 posted on 09/22/2002 1:26:06 PM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99
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To: Kennard
LOL.
397 posted on 09/22/2002 1:27:06 PM PDT by Torie
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To: marajade
Hertha "Adolf" Däubler-Gmelin lost her direct seat.
398 posted on 09/22/2002 1:27:48 PM PDT by eabinga
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To: eabinga
"Hertha 'Adolf' Däubler-Gmelin lost her direct seat."

But using the good 'ol boy system she could still win...


399 posted on 09/22/2002 1:31:51 PM PDT by marajade
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To: Kennard
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400 posted on 09/22/2002 1:32:20 PM PDT by Torie
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