Tom Delay Slams Dems as 'Handwringers and Appeasers'

NewsMax ^ | 9/21/02 | Limbacher

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

House GOP Majority Whip Tom Delay, R-Tx, went on the offensive on Friday in the debate over the Bush administration's plans to attack Iraq, slamming House Democrats currently organizing an anti-war coalition as "handwringers and appeasers."

"The Democrats have never been very supportive of these kinds of actions over the history of time," Delay told nationally syndicated radio host Sean Hannity.

"They didn't vote for the Gulf War, Desert Storm. They are handwringers and appeasers. They believe we ought to dream of peace rather than going out and fight for it.

"It's who they are and what their world view is," the top Republican told Hannity.

Delay was reacting to a report in the Washington Times about a House resolution sponsored by Democrats opposed the war in Iraq.

"Unilateral military action by the United States against Iraq is unjustified, unwarranted and illegal," Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, reportedly complained.

Kucinich, a lead organizer of the House anti-war movement, predicted that "dozens" more Democrats would join a group of 20 legislators already backing the resolution.

The anti-war Democrats also drew the ire of best-selling author Ann Coulter on Saturday morning.

"They know that the American people support defending America, unlike them," Coulter told WOR Radio's Ed Walsh.

"Their real feelings are coming out as much as they can right now, which is that they're desperately dying to provide aid and support to al Qaeda."

"I'm only exaggerating slightly," Coulter added, after Walsh questioned the observation.

[IH83WTS]

The Lib/Dems keep saying they want more evidence that we need to deal with Iraq militarily. We HAVE all the evidence we need: A vacant lot in Lower Manhatten and a smoking hole in the ground in western Pennsylvania, not to mention a recently rebuilt wedge of the Pentagon.

[Wild Irish Rogue]

" Perhaps you can prove nme wrong,but, Al Queda never trained in Iraq ."

Unless George Tenet is posting here-none of us can prove or disprove each other. We can only point to what has been publicly said by people who do have access to intelligence material. From Cheney's interview:
".. we’ve seen al-Qaeda members operating physically in Iraq ." You might want to quibble with trains vs operates,but the Brits have been especially forceful in linking the AQ to Iraq : From NewsMax.com

"Not according to conservative media giant Rush Limbaugh, who chastised the White House Thursday for not spotlighting the issue of Salman Pak, the hijacking school run by Saddam Hussein just south of Baghdad where the 9-11 hijackers likely trained to attack America.

"It's unbelievable that somehow this story remains sequestered," Limbaugh told his 20 million listeners. "I read this story last night and I was amazed."


Limbaugh proceeded to read at length from a Nov. 11 report in London's Observer newspaper - one of the most respected broadsheets in Great Britain - detailing the accounts of two Salman Pak defectors along with corroborating testimony from a former UN weapons inspector.

Though the Observer's bombshell report has been largely ignored by both the press and the White House in recent months, the similarity between what transpired over the skies of New York and Washington, D.C. on Sept. 11 and the drills at Saddam Hussein's hijacking school offers clear evidence of Iraq's involvement in Osama bin Laden's attacks on America.

The facts uncovered by the Observer have yet to be refuted by any subsequent media investigation. And should they be invoked by the Bush White House, the story could form the basis for a solid argument that attacking Iraq isn't merely a preemptive strike to keep Saddam from getting the bomb, but instead direct retribution against the lone head of state who both financed and helped plan the worst attack on the United States in its history."

[gargoyle]

...Excluding present and future company, I'd like the participants of FR to use logic, reason and facts to back up their arguments/debate, but, it might be too much to ask...

...Sorry, off subject, subjective...

...BTW, BUMP!!!

[Gritty]

"Their real feelings are coming out as much as they can right now, which is that they're desperately dying to provide aid and support to al Qaeda."

"I'm only exaggerating slightly," Coulter added, after Walsh questioned the observation.

Oh, no, you're not, Ann!

That's exactly what the result is of what they are doing!

[joeyman]

...Excluding present and future company, I'd like the participants of FR to use logic, reason and facts to back up their arguments/debate, but, it might be too much to ask...

I guess it would be too much to ask for you to back up your comments with specifics.

[Contra]

The "make love not war" and "all we are saying is give peace a chance" crowd. I wonder if these people lived in Iraq if they would be anti-war peaceniks against Saddam? There, this kind of activity would probably get them executed, I wonder if it would be worth their life to them to "give peace a chance"?

[Robert_Paulson2]

If you had a signed check to mohammed atta and transfers of money from Iraq's oil for food program to the Taliban and Osami himself... some folks would still say "that's not proof".

They want to apply "legal" proof definitions to intelligence operations... wherein all allegations must be proven 'beyond any doubt', before ANY allegations can be offered as evidence... and decided by a jury...

We have enough "evidence" on an intelligence level. We are going in. That evokes protests from the hand wringers and the naysayers. We all KNOW that sadaam is part of this. He will be dealt with, as we see fit and at the time of our choosing... a time which is fast approaching... his own folks are going to pop him... and he knows it... he is sending the republican guard out of town, because he knows his date with 'destiny' is fast approaching.

Sadaam apologists and handwringers notwithstanding.... nothing can stop what is ordained to occur. We KNOW who is behind the evil in this world... and Sadaam is part of it.

[Robert_Paulson2]

don't confuse us with facts...

after all, our handwringers and appeasers have a regime to protect... sadaam's.

[backhoe]

Sen Fred Thompson confirms Iraq is threat to U.S.

Links to information on Iraqi Nuclear Weapons Systems and Design (VERY Scary!)

IRAQ- some links to terror

[dark_lord]

Some people aren't focused on hand wringing, appeasement, or "saving" Saddam. They are just pointing out that in the big picture, countries like Saudia Arabia are far more implicated in Al Queda support than is Iraq. The Saudis
(a) provided most of the hijackers (15 out of 19),
(b) have bankrolled Al Queda for years (around $300M or so), and
(c) the leaders of Al Queda have either been Saudis, or operated out of Saudi Arabia for years, whereas

None of this is true for Iraq.

Is Saddam an evil weasal? Yes. Is it in the interests of the United States to take him out? Yes. Should we go occupy Iraq, and then in the future get rid of the Saudis? Yes.

But, based on a "preponderance of the evidence", who is more guilty of Al Queda support - Iraq or Saudi Arabia? Answer - Saudi Arabia!

[Robert_Paulson2]

clearly...

And I said that a long time ago... but,

Iraq is the targete de jour...
Saudis will be announcing elections soon...

[gargoyle]

...No problem. Some of the debates, in some of the threads I have read or participate in turn into personal attacks, and bigotry...

...Specifics? JRFR article 754882. I quote "and I count voting for a third party,,,as evil"...

...I prefer to look at the issues, and then decide. I don't support any "Party line items"...

[Enduring Freedom]

Dateline Nov. 1, 2002.

History will recall that the former Iraq was a totalitarian regime headed now-deceased dictator Saddam Hussein.

Economic hardship continues to plague the foresaken country, who's domestic production previously boasted exports of oil, figs and terrorism.

The E.U., supported by the Democratic Party, charge that as a result of the successful U.S. invasion, a one-third reduction in Iraqi exports will only lead to more innocent children starving - a clear and direct result of failed Bush policies in the Middle East.

[Isara]

The case against Saddam (III):There is an 'Al Qaeda connection'

The Iraq Connection - Was Saddam involved in OK City and the 1st WTC bombing?

[bushfamfan]

The Republican party needs more Tom DeLay. He doesn't take any of their cr*p.

[Issaquahking]

Go ahead and join your lefty buds.....I support "W" in doing what needs to be done to protect America. What kind of proof do you need? A 100,000 dead from a bomb in America? I can see you standing there before a news-cam "I didn't believe "W".