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Videotape of Florida Detainees at Tollboth hits airwaves.

Posted on 09/20/2002 8:46:10 AM PDT by Stu Cohen

They just showed the toll booth tapes of the Florida detainees on television.

According to the newscaster, both cars stopped, and paid the attendant. The tapes show them doing exactly this.

I'm not sure what to make of it, but the media is putting the tollbooth tapes into heavy rotation.


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: alligatoralley; arab; aymangheith; detainees; fl; florida; ga; kambizbutt; medicalstudents; omarchoudhary; terror; terroristhoax; terrorists; tollbooth; tolls; videolinkpostno56
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To: jerod
They should consider themselves lucky. If it were 1942 they wouldn't be going through a toll booth... they'd be in a detainee camp for Arab collaborators.

And I don't know why we can't do something like what the US was smart enough to do during WWI, when German aliens had to register here.

Why is that such an imposition on those who aren't even citizens here? I know the INS is supposed to keep track of them, but well, we can't expect too much from that agency, apparently.

41 posted on 09/20/2002 9:59:53 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: lelio; mssnoop; Joe Montana; Fred Mertz
BUMP !!!!!!!

FBI agents, hidden behind screens to protect their identity are explaining how terrorists got into the country. Wow, thanks for the headsup. This will make make quota of watching CPAN 2 a year.

42 posted on 09/20/2002 10:02:03 AM PDT by Donald Stone
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To: DAnconia55
Yet AGAIN Brown Shirt Freepers are wrong...

We told you so.

Yet, freepers keep posting, refering to false statements and leaked speculation as if it is true. I have no doubt that in the minds of many freepers, the three students are still terrorists.

43 posted on 09/20/2002 10:02:30 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: Hatteras
That's because they are so desperate to justify their 24-hour-a-day existance, they'll air anything. Nothing but a bunch of whores... FOX included.

Are you seeing that the media should not air the tollboth video that show the three Muslim med students actually paying the tolls?

44 posted on 09/20/2002 10:03:00 AM PDT by Station 51
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To: Station 51
I agree. This is newsworthy. All else being equal, in tends to show that these 3 Muslim medical students are telling the truth. It doesn't mean the Georgia lady was wrong to do what she did. But given all the previous news coverage, the toll booth video is certainly newsworthy.
45 posted on 09/20/2002 10:10:45 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: wardaddy
I have a Calivin & Hobbes Piss on Usama decal on my FJ-80's back window along with a Texas Terrorist Hunting Permit. Friend of mine asked what I was gonna do if I found one who was offended by my decorations. I told him I wouldn't practice catch & release......:o)

Stay Safe !!

46 posted on 09/20/2002 10:12:09 AM PDT by Squantos
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
good point

I suppose we're to believe that Flori-duh only has one toll booth

47 posted on 09/20/2002 10:19:24 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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To: DAnconia55
Remeber the first thread where I was saying too many "facts" were turning out to be wrong and people kept attacking by citing the original false "facts".

Its the same old "Don't bother me with the facts, my mind is made up" mentality.

48 posted on 09/20/2002 10:20:25 AM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: DAnconia55
Sorry, but when one party's story is consistent and the other party changes stories several times until they get lawyered up, and then settles on one version to tell, who is lying?

Anybody who THINKS, as you say, can see that Eunice's story has absolutely nothing to do with a toll booth. The toll booth issue is nothing but a sideline issue.

49 posted on 09/20/2002 10:21:19 AM PDT by alnick
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To: YoungKentuckyConservative
And, let us not forget the license plates, either.
You must have missed the fact that it was the cops that were wrong. The license plates were legitimate.

What about their first statement that they were only telling a joke at the restaurant, and then changing their answer later to say that they never said anything about September 11th or 13th? How do you explain this change in statement?
It was the cops that said the three were telling a joke at the restaurant. From the absolute moment that they were released from being detained, the three said that they had not been talking about 9/11 at all, whether in seriousness or jest. That this was a "hoax" is an invention of the police and the media.
50 posted on 09/20/2002 10:26:08 AM PDT by drjimmy
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To: Squantos
Nice "jeep"...what year?......they last forever I hear. The new LCs are way outta my price league. I'm gonna be buried in my 95 LR Disco btw....lol

I love 'em but they are NOT cheap to maintain. I wanted a Powerstroke Dooley but my wife put her rump down on that....maybe oneday. While I'm dreaming a G-Wagon or one of those new Hummers would be fun. I also would like to stop and buy every old Chevy or Ford pickup from mid 50s to early 60s I see but my pocket is always empty.
51 posted on 09/20/2002 10:28:22 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Hatteras
That's because they are so desperate to justify their 24-hour-a-day existance, they'll air anything. Nothing but a bunch of whores... FOX included

God damn, I didnt know they were supposed to serve as Hatteras own personal national bureau of propaganda. Here I thought they were supposed to cover the news. Duh, how stupid of me.

52 posted on 09/20/2002 10:30:21 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: Redbob
I have yet to meet a person of Japanese descent who did not think of himself as Japanese first, American (or other) second

For me to say what I really think about you would probably get me banned from this site. So Japanese-Americans took up arms against America during the war? So Japanese-Americans expatriated themselves to Japan to fight against America? So Japanese-Americans didn't have some of the best records winning innumerable awards in the war in Europe?

I have never met a Japanese-American who did not consider himself American first, Japanese by ethnic descent. Of course, since you have obviously met several of these imaginary traitorous Japanese-Americans, I am certain you wouldn't mind posting a few examples for us non-believers... boy don't I wish I could get personal on this...

53 posted on 09/20/2002 10:30:40 AM PDT by thedugal
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To: FreeTally
In the minds of many Freepers, "joking" about the WTC on 9-11-02, talking about "bringing down" another building and having contacts to do so..all the while eating a good meal, with the freedom to drive across our borderless states, on the way to a high paying job of choice knowing that your fellow Americans are mourning deeply on this anniversary..and that the nation's on high alert...forget jailtime, take these boys out to the woodshed.

I believe Mrs. Stone. The bomb-sniffing dogs are right 95% of the time. So the toll booth worker was worried on that day. She's human. Students stupidly "planning" an attack, a nation in mourning, on high alert, the nutty Cleveland license plate confusion, the woman at the toll booth warned to be on the alert, the bomb dogs' confirmation of possible explosives....yeah, who wouldn't make sure that these guys weren't terrorists? They were held one day. They were damn lucky relatives of the WTC victims didn't stop them. Meanwhile, in Muslim nations, a neighbor can accuse another neighbor...and on his word, without the right of an attorney or jury...can be jailed, or killed.

54 posted on 09/20/2002 10:30:57 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: FreeTally
Yet, freepers keep posting, refering to false statements and leaked speculation as if it is true. I have no doubt that in the minds of many freepers, the three students are still terrorists.

I personally heard the students claim that they said nothing like what Eunice claimed, that she was "obviously flat-out lying." I personally heard the students subsequently say that they did say something similar to what Eunice claimed and that she only misunderstood, that when they said, "Do you think we have enough to bring it down" and "if we don't have enough to bring it down, I have contacts and we'll get enough to bring it down" referred to bringing a car down.

There was a direct quote from the sheriff that said that two of the three refused to answer any questions and that the third one only answered questions with more questions.

I personally heard them say that they answered every question fully and truthfully. When confronted with the sheriff's statement by Linda Vester, they were stumped. They couldn't find words to say anything. Then their attorney piped in, saying that they have the constitutional right to not agree to having their car searched. A classic tactic of a liar -- change the subject without addressing the fact that you got caught in a lie.

I personally heard them claim that Eunice was lying because they claimed that she said that they were speaking in Arabic. I'll bet you can find no record of Eunice making any such claim. She consistently has said that they spoke only in English.

Those are all lies based on direct quotes from the sheriff, Eunice, and the students. Eunice's story has been consistent from the very beginning.

You can defend these people by pointing to irrelevant items that the media got wrong or that the toll booth operator was too nervous to remember correctly, but not one of those things reflects on whether or not Eunice heard what she heard.

Are they terrorists? Who knows. The police have repeatedly stated that they are still under investigation. If they are terrorists, then Eunice prevented an attack on 9/13.

At best, what they are is punks who decided to scare Eunice by saying things that would make it sound like they were plotting a terrorist attack. They didn't count on her having the courage to do anything about it.

55 posted on 09/20/2002 10:37:24 AM PDT by alnick
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To: Stu Cohen
You can see the videotape at NBC-2.com
56 posted on 09/20/2002 10:39:06 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: YoungKentuckyConservative
BINGO! After all, these non-terrorists have changed their statements many times, after refusing to answer simple questions and lieing about their names and business. And, let us not forget the license plates, either. Too many "wrongs" for this to possibly be a right.

And how many of these statements did you, yourself, hear these students make? Or did you just watch the news or read in the paper or on the internet what someone is alleged to have said or their interpretation of that?

As for the license plates that was resolved the day of the incident. The problem with the plate was caused by the state of Illinois. The students did not play any role in it other than drive the car.

Why are you so paranoid? Eunice did the right thing reporting them. They may or may not have said what they she said they said. She could have misunderstood or missed part of it... after all they werent speaking to her and she may have been nervous because of what she thought she was hearing. All that aside, it doesnt mean that they failed to pay the toll (police say they paid, the tape backs them up, they dropped the charges) and the FBI says the plate deal was a beauracratic screwup, not theft. Sometime reality is messy. You ever have a child? Get over it!

57 posted on 09/20/2002 10:41:13 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: Station 51
I'm not seeing anything as I don't have access to a TV right now. What I am saying is that they will continue to show this clip over and over again on all the cable channels. It's a person in a car, paying a toll booth operator for heaven's sake, I get the point! Now, let's move on!

P.S. I'm in the camp that thinks (until further notice) Eunice overheard something, was obvious in her attempt to eavesdrop on the rest of the conversation, the 3 stooges took notice and began toying with her. As far as the rest of the day, the story varied from station to station and thread to thread so I figured I'd hold off on making any judgement until information on each charge such as this became available.

58 posted on 09/20/2002 10:45:34 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: wardaddy
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The back seat (3rd row) was removed and the gear storage slideouts were installed. Added a cage seperation wall and a cedar pad for the rottweillers on top of that. I have an IC 706 HAM rig and an Outbacker antenna for comm along with a SSB/CB radio, Garmin GPS and a cellular phone .

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All told I paid 10K for the LC two years ago and have about 20K in time , love and labor.My toy truck is currently in the planning stage and my bank account ain't gonna like what I have planned fer that rig :o)

Stay Safe !!!

59 posted on 09/20/2002 10:45:47 AM PDT by Squantos
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To: YoungKentuckyConservative
What about their first statement that they were only telling a joke at the restaurant, and then changing their answer later to say that they never said anything about September 11th or 13th? How do you explain this change in statement?

Again did you personally hear them say that on TV or anyplace else. We all heard reports that they said this or that but can you believe everything you hear? Some of you dont believe a word about Waco, OKC, and half a million other things. Not everything you hear is necessarily true. Reporters often report information that turns out not to be true. They rely on the sources that they have. Some of them are relaying third hand information. Some are just kooks looking for their 15 minutes of fame. You are always better off with a news story the day after rather than as it happens.

60 posted on 09/20/2002 10:45:51 AM PDT by Dave S
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