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Klein lashes out at Chrétien (Kyoto threatening Tar Sands development)
Canadian Press via Globe and Mail (Toronto) ^ | September 19, 2002

Posted on 09/19/2002 6:18:08 PM PDT by Clive

Calgary - An angry Ralph Klein lashed out at Prime Minister Jean Chrétien on Thursday, rejecting Mr. Chrétien's assurances to oilpatch executives that the Kyoto climate accord won't hurt Alberta's economy.

A day after the Prime Minister tried to allay fears in the Canada's energy capital, Mr. Klein called Mr. Chrétien's plan to have Parliament ratify Kyoto before the end of the year "the goofiest, most devastating thing ever contemplated by a Canadian government."

The Alberta Premier's comments came as developers of a $3.5-billion oilsands project announced major cuts, saying potential costs of reducing carbon emissions may kill the plant's economic viablity.

TrueNorth Energy LP slashed Thursday its spending on the proposed new plant in northern Alberta, and warned that ratification of the Kyoto accord could kill the project.

While there has been much rhetoric about the potential costs to Canada of signing the international emissions-control accord, this is the first large project to be explicitly endangered.

Wednesday night, Mr. Chrétien told energy leaders he would not allow Kyoto to put the northern Alberta oilsands at risk. He also said provinces and industry leaders will be consulted before a plan is put before Parliament.

Mr. Klein scoffed at the comments, noting Ottawa's lack of details and failure to seek input before announcing to the world Canada would sign on to the international pact.

"Consulted? There's a difference between consulting and listening," said the Premier.

"If [Mr. Chrétien] would back off and say tomorrow, 'I will not sign the Kyoto protocol ... until after the provinces have been consulted and after their concerns have been satisfied,' that would be heartening news indeed."

Mr. Klein says other provinces - including British Columbia, Saskatchewan and Newfoundland - support Alberta's contention that a detailed plan is necessary before any agreement can be forged.

Mr. Klein vowed that Alberta will push forward on a $1.5-million anti-Kyoto campaign warning that up to 450,000 Canadians could lose jobs while taxes soar if the plan is adopted.

"You have my assurances - I will not roll over."

Ontario Premier Ernie Eves said Mr. Klein has valid concerns.

"All premiers would like to see what the game plan is before we sign onto something that may affect our economies dramatically," Mr. Eves said at a Tory caucus retreat in Sarnia, Ont.

"We assume the Prime Minister must have a game plan to make sure [major job losses] isn't going to happen or he wouldn't be going forward with the Kyoto agreement."

Manitoba Premier Gary Doer has suggested Alberta and special interest groups are playing the role of Goliath in this battle because they have the money to advertise against the accord.

"The people of Canada are David because they're not going to have millions of dollars to advertise and scare people," Mr. Doer, who supports Kyoto, said Thursday.

"I don't think special interest groups should determine the decision on Kyoto."

But a fuming Mr. Klein said Manitoba isn't supporting the protocol out of its environmental concerns. He said Mr. Doer sees the potential of his province reaping future economic benefits of hydro-electricity even though it will result in the loss of huge tracts of forested land.

"Hydro is a clean energy and under Kyoto's definition it benefits, but it is not a prerequisite for us to sell hydro," said Mr. Doer. Manitoba recently signed a $1.7-billion deal to export hydro power to the United States.

Mr. Chrétien also said consumers will have to share with industry the cost of reducing greenhouse gas emissions. That was slammed by the federal environment critic Bob Mills, an Alliance member of Parliament, who notes that "every Canadian will feel the brunt of living up to Kyoto" through higher costs for energy and transportation.

Mr. Mills said many Canadians would be prepared to endure some pain if it would help the environment, but there is no guarantee signing adopting Kyoto will result in cleaner air. He said Ottawa should be making major investments developing in alternate fuels such as hydrogen cells and conservation programs.

Saskatchewan's Resources Minister wasn't impressed with Mr. Chrétien's Kyoto message, either.

"We need to know how they're going to reach what numbers they're going to reach," said Eldon Lautermilch, noting he cannot determine what impact the agreement may have on the province's fragile agriculture industry.

"You've got to have a description and an analysis of the economic modelling. How [did] you reach your assumptions? We don't know any of that."


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The Tar Sands hold 5 times the oil reserves of Saudia Arabia.
1 posted on 09/19/2002 6:18:08 PM PDT by Clive
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2 posted on 09/19/2002 6:18:49 PM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive
Kyoto is flawed "science", I can make a simulation come out to any result I want, especially when you can hide details in subfiles and name these the same as a "valid" subroutine.

These global warming bozos are todays version of the snake oil salesman.

4 posted on 09/19/2002 6:28:53 PM PDT by ReaganIsRight
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To: Clive
Let's see - stop work in the Tar Sands, have all of Ontario's coal-fired generating stations off-line by 2015...

Are the leaders in this country stupid or what?? Where are we going to get our energy from? To put it bluntly, whose butt are we going to have to kiss to meet our energy needs? And how much will it cost?
5 posted on 09/19/2002 6:36:43 PM PDT by NatureGirl
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To: Clive
All of the scientists in the world agree that global warming is our greatest threat, and the Kyoto treaty is our only salvation.

All the scientists, that is, except for the ones who actually study this stuff.

The Canadians are going to shaft themselves for the sake of bogus science, and make fun of us for listening to the specialists who actually have a clue.

And Chretien thinks Bush is dumb. Hard to keep from laughing, eh?
6 posted on 09/19/2002 7:41:13 PM PDT by marron
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Al Gore ... Any doubts on his Kyoto position?
7 posted on 09/19/2002 8:35:22 PM PDT by thinktwice
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the South separated from the North because of tariffs.

That's news to me. Seven Southern states seceded within weeks after Lincoln was elected -- over his position on slavery.

8 posted on 09/19/2002 8:38:04 PM PDT by thinktwice
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Al Gore ... Any doubts on his Kyoto position?

Al Gore is a Canadian spy.

9 posted on 09/19/2002 9:59:30 PM PDT by marron
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To: NatureGirl
I have a great idea. Have Alberta, British Columbia and any other Province JOIN the USA!

Lower taxes, you don't have to wait 2 years to see a doctor, and we will not sign a junk science document. We still have a military that can defend the USA (Canada's military force is down to 55,000 personal).
Alberta would be a welcome addition to the USA!
10 posted on 09/19/2002 11:42:27 PM PDT by GaryMontana
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To: Norvokov
That was a side factor, miniscule in comparison to the taxes the North was levying.

Seven states seceding from the Union was a "miniscule" factor in the Civil War? Miniscule, when compared to taxes imposed by the North?

Tell us more about those taxes!

12 posted on 09/20/2002 7:07:03 AM PDT by thinktwice
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the slavery issue was miniscule compared to the tax issue in leading to secession.

Provide facts, or fade away; one or the other.

14 posted on 09/20/2002 11:36:05 AM PDT by thinktwice
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To: Norvokov
Somebody has been stuffing revisionist history into your receptive skull.

People using common sense know that the abolition of slavery -- Lincoln's platform -- was the primary cause of the Civil War.

16 posted on 09/20/2002 6:02:20 PM PDT by thinktwice
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To: Norvokov
You don't seem to realize that the continuation of slavery meant everything to the economy in Southern states.

Do you think soldiers from either North or South went into battle -- ready to die -- thinking it was about the moral case surrounding tariffs?

19 posted on 09/20/2002 6:40:57 PM PDT by thinktwice
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People using common sense know that the abolition of slavery -- Lincoln's platform -- was the primary cause of the Civil War.

Then why was the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863 - 2 years after the Civil War began?

20 posted on 09/20/2002 7:08:22 PM PDT by JamesWilson
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