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WND readers want pot legalized
Worldnet Daily ^ | 9/18/2002 | Joel Miller

Posted on 09/18/2002 1:19:47 PM PDT by WindMinstrel

© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com

WorldNetDaily's poll last Saturday concerned whether pot should be legalized.

The final tally of respondents was 56 percent pro and 43 percent con with variation among those answers. An unqualified yes hit the charts at 32 percent. One percent answered "other."

While not scientific and prone to problems, the response didn't surprise me much. There has always seemed a receptive attitude regarding changes to our current drug policies among WND readers. Since my first column on the subject, I've received overwhelmingly positive feedback to criticism of current policies and recommendations for change.

But it's not all whistles and roses.

Reader Joel I. Hunt, for instance, fired off this missive to WND when he saw the results of the poll:

I was shocked when I voted on the poll then saw that most people voted in favor of legalization. What really shocked me was the fact that the readers of WND voted this way. I thought that WND readers for the most part are Christian, conservative, reasonably intelligent people. This may not mellow Hunt's shock, but there is nothing incongruous with wishing drugs legalized and one's Christian confession, being conservative or reasonably intelligent. In fact, I think the opposite is closer to true – a fact about which a majority of WND readers seem savvy.

Christianity

There is nothing in Scripture, for instance, that particularly plugs prohibition. While it says nothing specific about narcotics, Holy Writ is adamantly against drunkenness and dissipative abuse of alcohol. If we want a biblical approach to drugs, we must apply Scripture's cautions about booze to other brain-meddlers, as alcohol is but one of many psychoactive substances around.

If we do this, we will see that the Bible distinguishes between sin and crime here. While strongly condemning drunkenness and dissipation, God doesn't provide a lot of support in Scripture for criminalizing them. Like lying, jealousy, refusing to help widows and orphans, these are sins, yes, but not crimes. If the concern is about some of the ill effects stemming from some drug abuse (property theft, abusive behavior, etc.), legislation actually sanctioned by Scripture already has those bases covered.

If not supporting draconian drug laws is the mark of a non-Christian, then the Bible isn't very Christian.

Conservative

The American right seems very confused on this one at times. Conservatives are opposed to big government, are in favor of states' rights, and laud the Constitution. But perhaps no single set of policies since the New Deal have so totally undermined these things as the drug war.

Antidrug legislation has drastically inflated federal police powers. Federal drug laws – for which there is no provision in the Constitution – have run roughshod over the rights of states to set their own policies regarding matters left unspecified in the Constitution. And drug-war tactics have brutalized the Bill of Rights' protections of life, home and property.

Further, by its constant escalation, the drug war has pushed drug traffickers to trump police in firepower, the resultant gun crime providing ammunition in the ongoing liberal war on the Second Amendment.

Intelligence

Besides being a low blow, any charge that holding a position unfriendly to drug prohibition is a sign of unintelligence is simply stupid. Thomas Sowell, Charles Murray, Milton Friedman, Walter Williams – these men aren't "reasonably intelligent"?

Ponder instead how support of the drug war measures a man's intelligence:

Drug prohibition hasn't eliminated drug use. It's pretty hard to measure if it's had much effect at all on curbing use. I think it has, but I don't consider all use damaging to society, so I'm not wetting myself over the prospect of slightly higher drug intake if dope were legalized. Regardless of the law, millions of Americans regularly use drugs, especially pot.

Drug prohibition hasn't helped stem crime. By pushing the market underground, it has in fact helped encourage crime – and more violent crime, to boot.

Drug prohibition hasn't boosted the nation's morals. The opposite might be true, since instead of promoting and persuading correct moral decisions in people we use the wrench of the state to force it. This is just bandaging cancer. Using government as the main inculcator of virtue instead of churches, families and communities is a monstrous mistake. On the other hand:

Drug prohibition has given the U.S. the free world's biggest prison population – many of those behind bars being nonviolent drug offenders. Spending on prisons is up, up, up.

Drug prohibition has provided terrorists with the necessary economic conditions to pad their purses with aims of attacking American citizens.

Drug prohibition has led to obscene corruption of law enforcement.

Drug prohibition has – and this is perhaps more damaging to the country than much of the above – harmed the legal and constitutional system in the country, as it has permitted police tactics that spit in the founders' faces. The Bill of Rights has become void where prohibited by drug laws, which means the constitutional shield used to shelter the assumed innocent has become a battering ram to assault the assumed guilty. Supporting such a policy seems a much better mark of the lack of reasonable intelligence, rather than vice versa. Unless, of course, all those things are the actual intent of drug warriors. If so, they're not unintelligent – just evil.

Contra Mr. Hunt, the fact that WND readers so strongly oppose this terrible policy shouldn't be shocking. It should be encouraging, if not outright refreshing.


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To: Impeach the Boy
I would disagree. Alcohol prohibition clearly shows that we have betrayed our Constitutional limits and assumed powers not Constitutionally granted. You may approve, but that doesn't make it Constitutional.
61 posted on 09/19/2002 10:17:13 AM PDT by steve50
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To: PaxMacian
"Do not be decieved, neither the DRUNKARD, nor the adulter, nor the theif, nor the homosexual will enter the kingdom of Heaven." ....the Apostle Paul (appointed personally by Christ to bring the Gospel to the gentiles...Paul, a jew who had been making sure that Christians were thrown into prison or killed until he met Christ while on his way to arrest more Christians....I'll take Paul's words..
62 posted on 09/19/2002 10:17:32 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: steve50
And I disagree with you (suprise). I think you are guilty of "finding" hidden rights the way liberals do....according to liberals there is the right to abortion because each individual has a "right" to personal happiness....I share your strict Constitutional stand, but do not see the right for addictive drug taking in the wording.
63 posted on 09/19/2002 10:20:44 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: Impeach the Boy
....I share your strict Constitutional stand, but do not see the right for addictive drug taking in the wording.

If you feel the Constitution grants citizens rights instead of limiting government authority, you don't have an accurate understanding of the document. No disrespect intended
64 posted on 09/19/2002 10:27:39 AM PDT by steve50
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To: JimRed
Is this one better for you?

Genesis 1:11-12
And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
65 posted on 09/19/2002 10:28:27 AM PDT by Nate505
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To: Destructor
I smell some rats! I wonder how many WND "readers" voted multiple times?

If it went the other way, would you be calling fraud? Are you really Al Gore? LOL

66 posted on 09/19/2002 10:34:39 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: marron
That might tend to keep it small scale and confined to small businessmen and farmers who aren't worth sueing....

As far as pot is concerned, If it were RElegalized, I'm guessing most folks so inclined would grow their own.

67 posted on 09/19/2002 10:38:47 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: JimRed
So, we light up and inhale our broccoli?

OH NO! Are they going to outlaw broccoli now?

68 posted on 09/19/2002 10:42:19 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
Oh, you again. I thought I dusted your ass off for good in our last little chat. I guess you're back for more, huh?
69 posted on 09/19/2002 10:43:53 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: Impeach the Boy
RE: "Do not be decieved, neither the DRUNKARD, nor the adulter, nor the theif, nor the homosexual will enter the kingdom of Heaven." ....the Apostle Paul (appointed personally by Christ to bring the Gospel to the gentiles...Paul, a jew who had been making sure that Christians were thrown into prison or killed until he met Christ while on his way to arrest more Christians....I'll take Paul's words..

My chosen confirmation name was Paul. I need no lesson there. Firstly, alcohol not herb is what is written about. And Jesus turned water to wine. Certainly a drink will not keep you PERMANENTLY from heaven but, being a drunkard, as in always drunk, might. The Pope has said, "The Heaven in which we will find ourselves is neither an abstraction nor a physical place among the clouds." Instead, he added, it is a "living and personal relationship with the Holy Trinity" and a "blessed community of those who remained faithful to Jesus Christ in their lifetime, and are now at one with His glory". Sins can be forgiven! Sinners should not necessarily be imprisoned, have their property seized, their right to vote rescinded, or even forced to listen to secular reprogramming. These things are far worse sins upon this great nation when they happen to good citizens that stop to smell a flower in God's Garden.
70 posted on 09/19/2002 10:48:08 AM PDT by PaxMacian
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To: steve50
I have read the Federalist Papers. I have read the documents of the Anti-Federalist. I have read the Constitution. You should not assume that if someone disagrees with your "interpretation" that they do not have a full grasp or understanding of the document. It is just this type of arrogance (unintended on your part, but inherent in many third party memebers) that drives so many from the affiliation with the third party movements. I go beyond the actual documents to the letters and essays of the Founders, particularly those written after the Constitution and Bill of Rights....for instance it is CLEAR from both the original documents and the essays of the Founders, that our nation's leaders intended that we NEVER have a national income tax...although liberals and democrats were successful in changing this, it was a terrible mistake, and the warnings of the Founders and the anti-Federalist have proven true regading a national income tax...my point is, that if there is success in getting an amendment that allowed legalization of addictive drugs, I do not think it matches the desires of the Founders. It is the words of the Founders in total that helps us to know the actual intent of the words in the document.
71 posted on 09/19/2002 10:50:33 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: Destructor
LOL, You thought wrong, as usual. The person who proclaims themselves victors, are just that, self proclaimed victors. The delude themselves. :-)

Thanks for the laughs Al Gore.

72 posted on 09/19/2002 10:55:03 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Impeach the Boy
that if there is success in getting an amendment that allowed legalization of addictive drugs,

No such amendment is needed. Quite the opposite, an amendment to disallow such use is needed. Precisely like the one used for the equally disasterous first prohibition. Ignored in the second prohibition.

73 posted on 09/19/2002 11:06:46 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Destructor
LOL, thanks again for the laughs kid. Anymore insults you wish to fling? I'm here for another hour or so, have at it.

You gain support among the folks here with each post. LOL

75 posted on 09/19/2002 12:02:20 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
Hey kid! Ya never answered the questions. Take some time out from the 10th grade for a minute and give it a try.

They were; If it went the other way, would you be calling fraud? Are you really Al Gore?

76 posted on 09/19/2002 12:05:14 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Destructor
I smell some rats! I wonder how many WND "readers" voted multiple times?

The stats are totally plausible. I know boatloads of conservatives who want pot legalized, and none of them are pot heads that I know of. All the survey shows is that it isn't a defining issue for conservatives, even if a faction of the conservatives want it to be. Only a small minority of conservatives subscribe to the caricature of people supporting pot legalization being pot heads. There is a huge contingent of clean, straight-as-an-arrow, non-drug-using conservatives who are also in favor of drug legalization.

77 posted on 09/19/2002 12:18:06 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: Destructor
RE: I'm sure the real Thomas Jefferson would be rolling over in his grave with the knowledge that you were actively defaming his name with your stupidity.

Thomas Jefferson grew HEMP as did many of our founding fathers so the only thing rolling would be the herb!
78 posted on 09/19/2002 1:06:45 PM PDT by PaxMacian
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To: PaxMacian
"RE: I'm sure the real Thomas Jefferson would be rolling over in his grave with the knowledge that you were actively defaming his name with your stupidity."

"Thomas Jefferson grew HEMP as did many of our founding fathers so the only thing rolling would be the herb!"

That is one of many myths that surround a great man. According to Liberals (that are pressing a definate agenda)Thomas Jefferson supposedly fathered children by his slave woman Sally Hemmings. That was later disproven by genetic testing.

80 posted on 09/19/2002 1:10:55 PM PDT by Destructor
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