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An interesting view of the question of pc warriors reom our northern neighbors. Not flattering to the NOW approach to women in uniform.
1 posted on 09/17/2002 2:19:55 PM PDT by robowombat
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The transition to a coed combat force has been smooth, says Lieutenant-Colonel Diana Hope, Canadian Forces director of personnel policy, who is responsible for "gender integration."

What else is she going to say..."Of course it hasn't worked because I don't have a clue what I'm doing in this job that was created for me to fill." Right!
2 posted on 09/17/2002 2:30:17 PM PDT by aardvark1
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I didn't realize Canada still had any military forces.....
3 posted on 09/17/2002 2:31:12 PM PDT by CatoRenasci
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We should take a cold, hard look at what kind of gender integration (if any) leads to a most deadly and efficient armed forces. It's preposterous for most to believe that the best solution is to have women in combat. Anyone with any common sense knows that when you mix sexes, all sorts of sexual attraction distractions, sexual attraction competition and sexual attraction jealousies arise. Surely that does not make for the strongest armed forces possible.
4 posted on 09/17/2002 2:31:51 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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5 posted on 09/17/2002 2:36:36 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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Would you want a woman in your foxhole that stank as bad as you, after a month in the field, and you dug most of it?
6 posted on 09/17/2002 2:39:08 PM PDT by Little Bill
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Of course to anybody with a thinking, rational mind, the outcome of all of this is obvious. But like I said.............
7 posted on 09/17/2002 2:44:09 PM PDT by machman
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'according to Lt.-Col. Hope ......."all of the units are reaching out and touching." '

From the remaining comments about pregnancy and prostitution, it sounds like Ms. Hope was correct.
10 posted on 09/17/2002 2:48:32 PM PDT by expatpat
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As the father of two girls, I sure hope they don't end up in the military, combat or non-combat.
11 posted on 09/17/2002 2:55:21 PM PDT by ReadMyMind
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My experience tells me that a large contingent of military women are....how should I say....ummm....whores. I can't count how many single and married women went hog wild while overseas. Especially the married women. I lost ALL respect for military women during my first tour in Korea, and my second tour was no different. The stories I could tell of the goings on down in Seoul would make Larry Flynt blush(and I'm sure I'm not the only one). The women at Ft. Benning were not all that diffeent either, just a little more discreet (probably because their husbands were their).

Since that is the case, put 'em to good use. Use them like the camp followers of ancient times. Let 'em service combat soldiers that come back from the front. Then again, I guess we could put one in each platoon and go that route, but it would be harder to keep them clean.

The above statements will probably make a lot of the PC freepers angry and I'm sure I'll get a lot of grief, but after reading the article above and thinking back on what I witnessed, I can't see where there would be a whole lot of difference. They wanna be ho's, treat 'em like the ho's they are. Make it an MOS (69H for instance)!

13 posted on 09/17/2002 3:07:01 PM PDT by bat-boy
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HAHAHAHA!

I thought it said:


new armed forced SANDALS revisit the question of why women are in them.

So...the armed forces are putting women in sandals nowdays, eh?
16 posted on 09/17/2002 3:17:28 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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The denial of reality is a contageous social disease.

The most important reason that women should not be in combat units has to do with the Chivalric code, that has brought out the best in Western Warriors for over a thousand years. Men are supposed to protect women. You trash that ethic, you destroy the call for courage and sacrifice above and beyond the mere orders of the moment. (For a more detailed look at the Feminist Absurdity, just click on the link.)

It was President Clinton, of course, who really used the American military to make social statement. And it was for that that he really should have been impeached (an removed from office). (See Abuse Of Power.)

We are at a point of cultural crisis in the West. And we are in very real danger of losing the non-material fruits of the upward struggle of a score of generations. If we lose the spiritual and philosophic aspects of that achievement, the material ones will not be long in flowing down the same drain, as the whole social infra-structure collapses.

William Flax

17 posted on 09/17/2002 3:20:42 PM PDT by Ohioan
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Morality is difficult for women to maintain in military situations.....

During the Vietnam conflict American male soldiers were irresponsibly impregnating the women of South East Asia. As a result, the United States decided to "take care of" the Amerasian children fathered by the U.S. male soldiers. Consequently, the 1987 Amerasian Homecoming Act was passed by Congress. To date over 20,000 Amerasian children have been brought to America along with over 65,000 of their extended family members and all have been given extensive relocation benefits... The United States has paid dearly for the irresponsible consequences of male soldiers.

In addition US military personell and contractors have been implicated in the sex trafficking trade in the former Yugoslavia.

In addition a number of US male soldiers have created embarrassing international incidents over rape and murder of locals and other criminal behaviour in foreign military bases.

In addtion, how many male US soldiers have fathered children out of wedlock I wonder? That information shouldn't be too hard to dig up if we have to get into a "morality" war.

This piece was a hack job with misogyny as its only premise. Incidently, I don't necessarly favor females in combat, at least not on a quota basis. But our military women, most of whom have served honorably deserve better than this type of hack job.

18 posted on 09/17/2002 3:31:21 PM PDT by Lorianne
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"A lot's happened since then," according to Lt.-Col. Hope. [...] There has been a changing of attitudes and "all of the units are reaching out and touching."

Touching? Interesting.

20 posted on 09/17/2002 3:39:56 PM PDT by A. Pole
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Army Major Rhonda Coraum (sic Cornum) was neither raped nor sodomized. She testified that one of her guards fondled a breast while they were riding in the back of truck. That guard was repremaned by a fellow guard. When Major Cornum testitfied before Congress she the indcident was "no big deal."

Whatever happened to Army Specialist Melissa Coleman has never been made public.

The truth of the entire article must be questioned in light of these known false statements.

28 posted on 09/17/2002 4:01:31 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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I've had to deal with being deployed with women. Frankly, I think they're a pain in the ass. They can't do anything, can't carry anything heavy, and don't really have a job besides to flirt with the higher-ranking guys in charge of the division.

There are a few who are good--they can carry their weight, know their job (and do it), and can take and give out a ribbing along with the men. However, they are few and far between.

32 posted on 09/17/2002 4:18:30 PM PDT by Skwidd
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Thank God that Dubya has pretty much defanged DACOWITZ. That collection of Clintoid looney ding-a-lings did more damage to the U.S. Armed Forces than Saddam could have ever dreamed of.

Still going to be a long time, if ever, before the services recover.
35 posted on 09/17/2002 5:21:37 PM PDT by Ronin
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Surely our women (& children) are what we are fighting for, not fighting with.
36 posted on 09/17/2002 5:23:39 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge
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Women will never be truely equal unless they share equally in the armed forces, and in combat. Women should not be spared the draft if there is one. Giving women all the good things, but not making them share in the responsibilities of freedom, is not equal.
37 posted on 09/17/2002 5:27:24 PM PDT by waterstraat
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....four unmarried female peacekeepers were sent home from Cambodia this spring after getting pregnant.

That's nothin'. These Canadians are rank amateurs.

In 1991, the US Navy destroyer tender USS Acadia (AD-42), subsequently nicknamed "The Love Boat," had to evacuate 36 out of a crew of 360 sailors because they were pregnant.

40 posted on 09/17/2002 5:53:51 PM PDT by Polybius
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This is a fixable problem. Form some all-female companies, led by female officers and NCOs. Issue paintball guns, take 'em to Ft. Hood, and "let the games begin." NB In the spring or fall - not high summer. Ft. Hood in the summer, you need that ol' Y chromosome.
55 posted on 09/17/2002 10:40:10 PM PDT by 185JHP
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