[kayak]

Please don't start that argument on this thread ...... there's one from last December you can look up and add your comments to.

I'm not suggesting that you have said anything out of line here in expressing your opinions ......

..... but I would like to ask everyone not to sidetrack the current discussion with that issue.

[MissAmericanPie]

"Bush was still inviting Saudi princes to the Crawford ranch and insisting that the kingdom was a ''staunch friend'' in the war against terror. This is not just ridiculous but offensive

Actually I thought it was part of the article, or at least part of the reasons that the author thought Bush has blown it, offensive relations with Muslim types, but ok, no biggy.