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Enemies, not guardians of religious freedom
Townhall.com ^ | September 14, 2002 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 09/14/2002 9:46:54 AM PDT by Gritty

I like to keep readers of this column apprised of the various acts of discrimination against Christians and Christian symbols in our society that come to my attention. I've got a new one for you. The Central Baptist Church in Sanford, Fla., organized a memorial service to honor the victims of last year's September 11 terrorist attacks. The church invited local school board members and other community leaders, as well as the public at large.

The Church asked the Seminole High School Gospel Choir to perform at the event, to be held at the church. When school officials got wind of it they barred the choir from participating. They also made clear that participation by choir members on their own would be forbidden as subversive of school policy.

You know, it's the old separation of church and state theme. According to the gods of the slippery slope, if a local school choir were allowed to sing at a local church, the United States would become a theocracy in no time.

Apparently, wanting to make sure there was no ambiguity in the future, the school district announced that it was adopting a new policy that would forbid any school choir from taking part in an event sponsored by or located in a church. Reportedly, the school district is even looking into banning the gospel choir entirely.

The gospel choir has been in existence for 12 years, having been organized as a result of a community demand for this type of music. The choir is one of four in the school district -- the other three are secular. Like the other three, the gospel choir is highly sought after and has received many trophies in competition.

No student is arbitrarily assigned to the gospel choir. All of its 85 members belong on a purely voluntary basis -- they choose which of the four choirs they want to join.

I suppose the school district's action could have been anticipated, given recent directives of school officials. Not long ago, the school prohibited choir members from praying among themselves before their practices. After receiving that order the choir asked school authorities whether they could, in lieu of praying together, have a moment of silence. Again, the answer was an emphatic no.

But not everyone agrees with the school district's bizarre view of the church-state issue. Mathew Staver, President and General Counsel for Liberty Counsel, a nonprofit civil liberties education and legal defense organization, was the keynote speaker for the ceremony. He was incredulous upon learning of the school district's decision.

"I was shocked by the situation -- not only because I believe it's blatantly unconstitutional, but it's also unbelievable that it would come on the day that they were going to celebrate those who died during the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, and honor them in a patriotic celebration and a memorial service as well," said Staver.

Staver has requested the school "to back off its position" and will consider instituting legal action if it does not. He believes the school district's policy is part of a nationwide trend seeking to eliminate all indicia of religion -- at least Christianity -- from the public schools.

It is shameful that those who purport to be committed to constitutional principles are trashing one of the First Amendment religion clauses in the name of the other. The impetus behind the First Amendment's Establishment Clause was to preserve religious freedom by prohibiting a national religion. Religious freedom was also (obviously) the impetus behind the First Amendment's Free Exercise Clause. Yet lost in all this phony separation of church and state zealotry is our Founders' commitment to freedom of religion.

The school district's banning of voluntary prayer and silent time by school choir members, as well as their performance on church property, is a far greater threat to our religious freedom than their participation at the 9-11 ceremony would have been.

Could these fanatical advocates of a complete ban on state and church interaction have become so myopic that they can't see they are damaging the very freedoms they claim to be upholding? Or is something other than constitutional principles -- like hostility to the Christian religion -- motivating them?


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1 posted on 09/14/2002 9:46:54 AM PDT by Gritty
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To: Gritty
They also made clear that participation by choir members on their own would be forbidden as subversive of school policy.

Doing it on their own, has absolutely nothing to do with school policy.

How about Islamic indoctrination in some schools, no separation between state and church there.

2 posted on 09/14/2002 9:53:15 AM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Gritty
Or is something other than constitutional principles -- like hostility to the Christian religion -- motivating them?

--I'd vote for that one as the motivation. I wish I could say I am surprised by this story.
3 posted on 09/14/2002 9:53:45 AM PDT by Bigg Red
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How come they always forget the part about not "prohibiting the free expression thereof" ????? Can anyone explain how allowing a school choir to sing in a church is the same as congress passing a law establishing a state religion?
4 posted on 09/14/2002 10:00:19 AM PDT by goodieD
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the school district... was adopting a new policy that would forbid any school choir from taking part in an event sponsored by or located in a church.

I think the school is on constitutionally shaky ground with this attitude. "Gospel" singing may be of a religious nature, but it also has an ethnic value to it, as in 1st. Amnd. "expression". I think the choir should have went, Devil be D*mned, to the memorial service on the 11th and then to court on the 12th.

5 posted on 09/14/2002 10:03:48 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: Gritty
They also made clear that participation by choir members on their own would be forbidden as subversive of school policy.

This is clearly a First Amendment violation and they should not be allowed to get away with it.

6 posted on 09/14/2002 10:04:20 AM PDT by JimSEA
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How about Islamic indoctrination in some schools, no separation between state and church there.

Silly rabbit, there is separation of state and church there. There's just no separation between state and mosque.
7 posted on 09/14/2002 10:10:42 AM PDT by billybudd
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To: Gritty
at the event, to be held at the church. When school officials got wind of it they barred the choir from participating. They also made clear that participation by choir members on their own would be forbidden as subversive of school policy.

Well, I guess some enterprising choir member with a decent attorney now has no problem paying for a collge education.

8 posted on 09/14/2002 10:23:25 AM PDT by templar
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To: JimSEA
They also made clear that participation by choir members on their own would be forbidden as subversive of school policy.

This is clearly a First Amendment violation and they should not be allowed to get away with it.

It's probably a violation of the FL state constitution, and possibly state law as well.

9 posted on 09/14/2002 10:33:15 AM PDT by jimtorr
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I believe that this continued persecution of religion in school students will inevitably backfire in a wonderful way. Forbid something to kids, and they'll want it even more. The instict of rebellion is natural in young people, and these folks who forbid the Gospel choir are giving them something really worthwhile to rebel against.
10 posted on 09/14/2002 11:49:37 AM PDT by Finny
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There's just no separation between state and mosque.

This is so strange as to be laughed at, except it is too serious for laughter.

Right up there with Manitoba now trying to get a law saying, "Anyone as much as showing a pack of cigarettes in front of a minor, can be fined $5.000.

We are well on our way to become zombies cowering under the power of fanatisism of all stripes, we have better wake up.

11 posted on 09/14/2002 12:33:21 PM PDT by Great Dane
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