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To: Great Dane
So true. Smokers are busy paying increased costs for car, home, and health insurance, and picking up the tab for the lawsuits which were (supposedly) to establish funds to pick up the state expenses for smoker's health care.

You want really crappy health care? Just let a doctor see a cigarette pack in your pocket. You get a lecture ($3.25/minute) about cigarette smoking. Great, Doc, how about sewing up the gash in my leg????

Through several doctors, not once have I been asked about allergies (other than pharmaceutical), or workplace exposure to dust, chemicals, or toxins.

This will simply be another witch hunt.

BTW, the BMI is just the old chart in a formula. I'm 6 feet tall, weigh 228, and can pick up an engine block (stripped, no main caps) and put it on the stand (8 cylinder, not a 4-banger). The last time I weighed in at 180 lbs, I had been underfed (grad school) for eight months and spent one week of that time with no food at all. Muscle weighs more than fat. The index should be a factor of total body fat as a percentage, not just body weight.

24 posted on 09/15/2002 1:05:28 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe
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To: Smokin' Joe
#24....... I can agee with everything you say, however I have trained my doctor to behave, he always ask me if I have quit smoking, my reply; have you stopped going to risky places like Israel, then he asked: what if all doctors refused to treat smokers, my reply: thats fine with me, as long as you also refuse to treat the obese, Aids patients, people injured in sports and all other self inflicted illnesses......... doctor, you wont be able to make a living, you son will have to drop out of university and get a low down job......... End result, he laughs.
28 posted on 09/15/2002 7:50:27 AM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Smokin' Joe
#24...By the way, my husband has smoked since he was 13, still smokes at 70, you know our doctor has never once as much as asked him if he smokes..... whats with that.
29 posted on 09/15/2002 7:52:30 AM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Smokin' Joe
the BMI is just the old chart in a formula. I'm 6 feet tall, weigh 228, and can pick up an engine block (stripped, no main caps) and put it on the stand (8 cylinder, not a 4-banger). The last time I weighed in at 180 lbs, I had been underfed (grad school) for eight months and spent one week of that time with no food at all. Muscle weighs more than fat.

The article saying that a 6' tall man is considered obese at 200 lbs. caught my attention, too. My husband is 6', 200 lbs. (though maybe down to 195 now) and he is definitely not obese. When he weighed 170 lbs. a few years ago, he looked too thin. Now, he's built thicker, but with weightlifting, running, etc. he's still in good shape. Those weight charts are ridiculous sometimes.

45 posted on 09/15/2002 1:55:45 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Smokin' Joe
BTW, the BMI is just the old chart in a formula. I'm 6 feet tall, weigh 228, and can pick up an engine block (stripped, no main caps) and put it on the stand (8 cylinder, not a 4-banger). The last time I weighed in at 180 lbs, I had been underfed (grad school) for eight months and spent one week of that time with no food at all. Muscle weighs more than fat. The index should be a factor of total body fat as a percentage, not just body weight.

I'm glad you mentioned this. What's also important is that they changed the rules a couple of years ago. What used to be acceptable BMI is now marginal or even "obese". My BMI is borderline obese under the new rules as well, despite my having a slightly better than average body-fat %. I'm not Arnold but I stay in shape.

53 posted on 09/15/2002 6:28:24 PM PDT by meyer
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