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To: syriacus
I'd tell them not to talk loudly about plots in restaurants

I'm having a hard time believing that conversation really happened

It's a "she said, he said" situation, and both players are not completely credible to me

One of the players has the Chucky-Schumer Syndrome, and the other player is trying to save his bum from prosecution.

180 posted on 09/13/2002 9:51:36 PM PDT by LO_IQ
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To: LO_IQ
I'm having a hard time believing that conversation really happened

How did Eunice Stone know they were going to Miami?

If, after seeing and hearing this woman, you think she's making up a story, you'd likely not believe your own mother.

184 posted on 09/13/2002 9:54:44 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: LO_IQ
It's a "she said, he said" situation, and both players are not completely credible to me. One of the players has the Chucky-Schumer Syndrome, and the other player is trying to save his bum from prosecution.

Even Chuck Schumer probably tells the truth once in a while when he is in front of the camera.

It's a "he said, she said" situation, but that doesn't mean the young men aren't lying.

Sometimes things turn out to be very close to black and white, after the deliberate muddying of the situation is removed.

We'll just have to wait to learn the truth. Meanwhile, lies and truths will be broadcast and people will talk.

Humanity is a gossipy bunch.

201 posted on 09/13/2002 10:10:52 PM PDT by syriacus
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To: LO_IQ
"I'm having a hard time believing that conversation really happened"

Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument that the men are telling the truth and let's say that it was me in Mrs. Stone's position (since I would have done the same thing). I'm sitting here having a nice lunch with my daughter and these three mideastern men are sitting in the booth next to us. I don't like their looks (understandable) and I look at them distastefully (likely). They say nothing to me and go on innocently with their meal or coffee or whatever.

However, at this point I just can't enjoy my meal any more because these guys are there and I resent them. Being from a small, southern town (true) where nothing much ever happens (also true) I decide I need a little excitement in my life. Since I know everybody is on high alert it would be easy to stir up some trouble about these guys so when they get up to leave, I follow them. Even though they never said a word, it is likely that they're up to no good, and who knows, I might even get to be on TV. While they're not looking I quickly get a description of the men and the one tag number that I could see. After all, it might be important not to have some different mideastern men stopped because they might be more innocent.

The men leave and I immediately call 911. Since the men have said nothing to indicate that they are a threat, I have to make up something quick. Let's see, there are a lot of those people around Miami and it looked like they turned south on the highway, so they must be heading to Miami. Now what could I say to make it sound big? I know, I'll say that they were joking about 9/11 and having a party to celebrate it. But let's see, that probably isn't enough to get them in trouble so I'd better claim that they were making threatening plans too. Now what would sound good? I know. They were going to blow something up.....nah, that sounds too obvious. How about that they were gonna bring something down. Yeah, that should work. Of course, for full effect, I would have to keep them guessing so I don't want to offer too many details.

Early the next morning I discover that the men have been appehended. Well, then obviously they did something wrong just as I suspected, and what do you know, they want me to tell my story on tv. Now what do I say? I want to look like a hero, but of course these men could say that I'm making all this up and make me look foolish on national tv so I'd better say that they could have been just joking. I mean, it's worth being totally humiliated to make a name for myself even if I have nothing to gain. And of course I could be making myself an actual target of some Muslim extremist or even be making myself hated in my own town.

Come on, does that even sound remotely reasonable? It sure doesn't to me. Personally, I would have done exactly what she did if, and only if, I had heard the kinds of things she said that she heard. What I wouldn't have done is go on national television with it. I would have issued a statement and done a disappearing act until I saw what the outcome might be. So while I question her judgement about the TV appearance, I think she did exactly the right thing regarding everyting else. I believe her. I do NOT believe the men.

492 posted on 09/14/2002 11:19:07 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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