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TSA Outrage: Closed Airports, NO NOTAM!
Aero News Net ^ | 13 September 2002

Posted on 09/13/2002 5:36:53 PM PDT by SBeck

We wouldn't have believed it if we hadn't gotten it first-hand from the embattled manager of the College Park Airport himself.

Lee Schiek, manager of the nation's oldest continuously-operating airport (in College Park, MD), received a call, Tuesday, from an FAA Flight Service Station ordering him to close his airport, "immediately." The order was to apply to both College Park (CGS) and Potomac Airport (VKS), as well as Hyde field... which has already been closed for an extraordinary period of time--a move which has nearly decimated those associated with that airfield.

Schiek's story is amazing: "At 8:20 (PM/Tuesday), I was called by FAA and told to close immediately... period." The original order was to have closed the airport until 1600 Thursday... but another call extended the order until 1600 Friday... and yet another call from FSS extended that another two hours until 1800 Friday (EDT). The order specifies absolutely NO FLIGHT OPERATIONS... which obviously means that if someone flies out of, or into, these airports, they're toast and they get to tango with the TSA or the Secret Service, depending on whose turn it is to violate someone's civil rights (one wonders: do they draw straws... flip a coin?).

Pretty Bad, Eh? No Wait, It Gets MUCH Scarier

The FSS, when called back and questioned (to confirm the validity of the grounding order), told Schiek that the directive comes from the TSA and that there was to be no NOTAM announcing the situation... meaning that pilots can apparently be violated for a situation that they could not possibly have knowledge of.

Schiek was quite emphatic about this directive. "FSS replied, 'No Notams will be issued,'" he said. Schiek was also told that the TSA "declined" the suggestion to publish the NOTAM.

Obviously, this is a bizarre, probably illegal, and certainly unconstitutional situation. Worse, a renegade bureaucracy, under no one's control, is targeting an entity that has NO history of being a threat to our nation's security, and, as a matter of fact, it is an industry with an extensive history of service to the nation in times of war and peril. Go figure.

Potomac Confirms...

Not that we didn't believe Schiek... but we called Potomac Airfield's "Big Cheese," David Wartofsky, who not only confirmed that his field was also closed but noted that he received the same treatment as College Park... three last minute calls, little warning, lots of excuses, and NO NOTAM to be issued. Wartofsky is keeping his sense of humor about it all, regardless, his website decribes Potomac as both "The preferred airport for the intelligence professional" as well as "Airbase Potomac." Ya gotta admire a guy who can still make a joke while his livelihood is endangered...

Worst of All...

A quick call to our local FSS was a shocker... as the young lady who answered my inquiry stated that according to her records, that both College Park and Potomac were still open to "restricted use."

When you read this, folks, call your Congressman, call both your Senators, and call any elected official you can get a hold of. Our government is doing this because we're letting them... and we have to change that.

Its bad enough that airports are being closed for no good reason and that patriotic hard-working "Aero-Americans" (this nation's new minority group/target of discrimination) are being deprived of their livelihoods, liberty and the ever-popular pursuit of happiness... but it seems to be done illegally and arbitrarily... and in a way that tarnishes the very image and foundation of this nation, at home and abroad.

As Lee Schiek wrote ANN, late Thursday evening, "'Close airports and airspace, but let's not inform the flying public through established procedures'...... What an absolute outrage!! It should not go unchallenged - Please help!"


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: airportclosure; outrage; tsaclowns
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I'm speechless.
1 posted on 09/13/2002 5:36:53 PM PDT by SBeck
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To: SBeck
Oh, the humanity. This is series.
2 posted on 09/13/2002 5:41:01 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: SBeck
None of us should be speechless about anything the government does and I mean that on two levels. We should not be surprized and we should not be silent. Things are definitely getting out of hand.

Everyone should re-read the Niemoller poem about now.

3 posted on 09/13/2002 5:41:31 PM PDT by Mike4Freedom
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To: Mike4Freedom
"Things are definitely getting out of hand"

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the borders remain wide open. I guess only CITIZENS need be inconvenienced.

4 posted on 09/13/2002 5:53:54 PM PDT by brat
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To: SBeck
What's a NOTAM? Just wondering ....
5 posted on 09/13/2002 5:57:12 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: SBeck
All they gotta do is fill out a simple form documenting their losses, and the U.S will quickly compensate them for this 'taking'. It's in the rules! Sarc/
6 posted on 09/13/2002 6:07:08 PM PDT by dasboot
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To: Ken522
"What's a NOTAM"

Notice to airmen

Something that should be checked prior to every flight when you get your weather brefing and/or file a flight plan.

It's not illegal to make a flight without checking but if you are in the wrong and there has been a notam issued, it can create big problems up to loss of licence.
7 posted on 09/13/2002 6:07:32 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Ken522
And just to add, there are three types NOTAM (L) covers local announcements (such and such service is out or construction is taking place here at this airport), NOTAM (D) covers wide area announcements and NOTAM (FDC) is regulatory.

I've become quite the aviation geek.

8 posted on 09/13/2002 6:11:29 PM PDT by SBeck
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To: SBeck
What Movie is this from?

Voiceman: The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only, there is no stopping in the red zone.

Voiclady: The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only, there is no stopping in the red zone.

Voiceman: The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only, there is no stopping in the red zone.

Voiclady: The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only, there is no stopping in the red zone.

Voiceman: The red zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only, there is no stopping in the white zone.

Voiclady: NO! The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading and there is no stopping in the red zone. Voiceman: The red zone has always been for loading and unloading

there is never stopping in a white zone. Voiclady: Don't tell me which zone is for stopping and which zone is for loading.

Voiceman: Listen Betty, don't start up with your white zone shit again!

9 posted on 09/13/2002 6:16:20 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: dalereed
"It's not illegal to make a flight without checking but if you are in the wrong and there has been a notam issued, it can create big problems up to loss of licence."

No, it can be worse. Let's say "......up to and including loss of one's aircraft and possibly one's life."

10 posted on 09/13/2002 6:20:49 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: cmsgop
Voiceman: Listen Betty, don't start up with your white zone shit again!

Heard every weekend by National Guardsman everywhere, every weekend:

Sgt: "Who told you to get on that truck. Everyone off the truck."

Lt: "What the hell are you guys doing off the truck. Get back on the truck."

Sgt: "Who said you guys could get on that truck. Get the hell off the truck."

Lt: "Damn it I told you guys to get on that truck. What part of the word ON do you not understand?"
11 posted on 09/13/2002 6:22:11 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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Really?

LOL!
12 posted on 09/13/2002 6:24:05 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: cmsgop
Airplane.
13 posted on 09/13/2002 6:25:39 PM PDT by SBeck
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To: RightOnline
Shame on me for neglecting that one since it should be at the top of my list since i've totaled my airplane. BTW it had nothing to do with a NOTAM.
14 posted on 09/13/2002 6:37:43 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: SBeck
You Are Correct Sir!!!!

You Win Nothing...

And Flight Attendants Prepare For Departure.....
15 posted on 09/13/2002 6:44:21 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: dalereed
"Shame on me for neglecting that one since it should be at the top of my list since i've totaled my airplane."

Damn, son, how'd you do that???? I assume you're ok, since you're sitting here posting, etc..........????

16 posted on 09/13/2002 6:51:35 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: RightOnline
Long story but I was taking 5 doctors and nurses to a clinic about 200 miles below Guymas, Mexico FOR FREE!

A lard ass nurse who was told she had to sit in the middle of the plane for balance swapped seats with a 90# doctor in the rear seats when we went through a squall line below Guymas and in the turbulance I didn't notice it and put me way aft CG.

The 1500' dirt strip was adobe and was wet under the surface and when I touched down it was like grease and I had to abort. There were high tension power lines on 3 sides and I wasn't going to make it over them so I elected to go under them and with her big fat ass in the tail there wasn't enough lift on the elevator and it sunk out and I went into an embankment and blasted through the mesquite.

I was only going 90k and flew it into the ground so everyone survived but my plane was totaled and sorry to say I only had it insured for 25% of replacement of same year and model.
17 posted on 09/13/2002 7:05:39 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed
206 or Caravan?
18 posted on 09/13/2002 7:19:37 PM PDT by SBeck
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To: dalereed
You know what 'they' say: "No good deed goes unpunished".

Seriously, though.........damned glad you're ok.......and your pax made it. For what it's worth to you, I'm a BIG believer that the Good Lord looks after those who do good.........and you were doing what you did for good. You'll, somehow / somewhere, be compensated for the loss of your aircraft. God bless.

19 posted on 09/13/2002 7:20:23 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: SBeck
TSA...

Totally
Stupid
A$$holes

20 posted on 09/13/2002 7:22:47 PM PDT by Darth Sidious
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