Posted on 09/13/2002 9:23:34 AM PDT by churchillbuff
Holy war update: God's guys winning
Sept. 13, 2002 12:00:00
In case you didn't know, there's a war going in Arizona. But don't worry. The self-described good guys are winning.
The war that hasn't received much publicity. Those fighting it have kept quiet about it. Outsiders were privy to it only if they were fortunate enough to see the holy warriors' joint appearance on Praise the Lord, broadcast on Channel 21 (KPAZ).
Matt Salmon, the Republican candidate for governor, prayed for help fighting this "war of epic proportions."
"And I'm not talking about the war on terrorism," he said. "I'm talking about the war that is right within our own country, the war between good and evil."
He was joined on the panel by Trent Franks, the Republican nominee for Congress in District 2; Andrew Thomas, the Republican nominee for attorney general; and David Petersen, the Republican nominee for state treasurer.
One of the hosts, Bruce Gilbert, prayed for divine assistance.
"We've lost a whole lot. We're going to gain a whole lot back," he said. "We're not going to be passive but politically active . . . so we can see some new things happening in these crucial, critical, pivotal elections this fall, in Jesus' name."
It worked. Salmon, Franks, Thomas and Petersen all won the primary on Tuesday.
Now their quest to take government back in the name of God can continue.
On the program, broadcast twice in August, Franks joined Salmon in describing an attack on America "from outside and from within. . . .
"(And) the latter has a greater complication for the survival of America even in the things that come against us in terrorism."
This man, looking to be the congressman for the West Valley and the northwestern part of the state, apparently believes that protecting institutions like Luke Air Force Base and the Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station takes a back seat to fighting a war against unnamed heretics.
"We have to protect the soul of this country," he said.
Similarly, Thomas claimed on the program that crime is "a reflection of the nation's soul," and can only be solved through religion.
"The only way we can solve crime is not just through law enforcement, it is also through a re-emergence of faith."
Thomas says he would give prisoners religion. Then they would walk the right path. In his view, secular programs that educate or rehabilitate have failed, leaving Christian conversion as the only answer.
Petersen says he will institute a "praise card" program if he is elected.
It would concentrate on a specific "godly principle" each month.
As an example, Petersen gave the definition of character: "the inward motivation to do the right thing."
After reading it, he said, "You and I know we've been talking about what the inward motivation is. It's the spirit of God. It's the Holy Ghost. It's the Holy Spirit.
"This can be preached in the classroom today and we don't have to fight the battle of bringing prayer back."
After the candidates spoke, one of the hosts started reading off prayers that had been phoned in. "There's a lot of people who called today, a lot of people who call in regularly to this program, who are burdened."
One person had health problems; another needed money; another needed a better job.
It was a sampling of the woes many face in Arizona.
And in response, the panel prayed, sure in their hearts that the solution to these problems is found in Christianity.
"We need changed lives," Gilbert said. "We need people affected by the presence and power of God almighty."
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In his view, secular programs that educate or rehabilitate have failed,He's right.
And, he's correct.
there will be some;
I am so sick and tired of the liberal republicans in arizona who hate the conservative republicans in arizona.
I remember Herb Drinkwater (long-time mayor of Scottsdale who became a god in scottsdale, if you don't believe me just go look at City Hall, his bust is displayed in two places, his portrait in one and the building is named after him). Drinkwater held a weekend meeting for republicans once to simply criticize conservatives in the party, that was the only reason for having the meeting.
I remember Jim Rhodes who was minority leader in the US house of reps for many years. When he retired he went way out of his way to tell everyone that the conservatives in the party were to be shunned. I remember John McCain going to meet with rural property rights advocates to tell them that they were a bunch of hicks he had contempt for.
I remember all the negative comments by liberal republicans about mormons even though I'm not mormon. I've become as a result of these things very intolerant towards the liberal republicans. The liberals are #2 in the republican party, the conservatives are #1. If the republican leaders can't understand that pecking order, then there is no reason for me to ever vote for anyone but a real conservative. Look what the liberal republicans have done to the state since they co-operated with the liberals in kicking Symmington out. They've squandered so much money so very irresponsibly. Today they're cutting funding for public schools. There is no excuse for this and yet all they can do is rely on their knee-jerk prejudices. When Salmon was a leader in the legislature the state was very well run and money was not a problem. They can't see that. They can only see that he is mormon, he speaks on tv about jesus and he's a right-winger. So, the liberal republicans hate him, not caring at all that their own leaders screwed over the people big-time in the last few years.
Oh, goody, a theocracy.
Lost your liberty, pal? Well,
ayatollah but you woona lissen.
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