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(Canadian) PM links attacks to 'arrogant' West (meaning the USA only of course)
National Post ^ | Sheldon Alberts

Posted on 09/12/2002 7:56:19 AM PDT by Grig

PM links attacks to 'arrogant' West 'You cannot exercise your power to the point of humiliation of others': Chrétien

Sheldon Alberts, Deputy Ottawa Bureau Chief National Post

Thursday, September 12, 2002

OTTAWA - Jean Chrétien has linked the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to perceived Western greed and arrogance and said the United States should not use its position as the world's only superpower to humiliate people in poorer nations.

In an interview that aired last night on CBC-TV, the Prime Minister for the first time suggested the strikes against New York and Washington stemmed from a growing international anger at the way the United States flexes its muscle around the globe.

"You cannot exercise your powers to the point of humiliation for the others. That is what the Western world -- not only the Americans, the Western world -- has to realize. Because they are human beings too. There are long-term consequences," Chrétien said in the pre-taped interview.

"And I do think that the Western world is getting too rich in relation to the poor world and necessarily will be looked upon as being arrogant and self-satisfied, greedy and with no limits. The 11th of September is an occasion for me to realize it even more."

The Prime Minister's remarks were part of a documentary about Canada's response to the Sept. 11 attacks that included revelations that, at one point that day, Chrétien gave tentative authorization for fighter pilots to shoot down a Korean Airlines 747 that military commanders feared had been hijacked over the Yukon.

Senior officials also revealed that dozens of jumbo jets were ordered to land in Gander, Nfld., and other remote East Coast airports because the government did not want to risk crashes or hijackings near major central Canadian cities such as Toronto and Montreal.

But Chrétien's remarks about the causes of anti-U.S. sentiment are likely to generate the most controversy. Leftist intellectuals from Susan Sontag to Canada's Naomi Klein have suggested U.S. foreign policy is one of the "root causes" of the attacks, while others say that argument amounts to blaming the victim.

The Prime Minister suggested Western nations -- and the United States in particular -- have alienated the rest of the world by trying to impose their values around the globe. Americans, he said, need to be nicer in how they operate on the international stage.

"It is always the problem when you read history -- everybody don't know when to stop. There is a moment, you know, when you have to stop," Chrétien said.

"There is a moment when you are very powerful. I said that in New York one day. It was on Wall Street. It was a crowd of capitalists, of course, and they were complaining because [Canada] had normal relations with Cuba, and this and that, and we cannot do everything we want. And I said that day -- if I recall, I used probably these words -- when you are powerful like you are, you guys, it is the time to be nice."

David Collenette, the Transport Minister, went further, comparing the United States to a hockey bully that may feel free to dominate world affairs because it no longer has such superpower enemies as the Soviet Union to keep it in check.

"There will be people in the U.S. emboldened by their new source of unfettered power to, in a hockey term, get their elbows up," Collenette said.

Chrétien also said he likes to maintain a detached relationship with U.S. presidents because "Canadians don't want to be looked upon as the 51st state."

"I have very good relations with President [George W.] Bush. I had very good relations with president Clinton. But I keep my distances," he said.

The CBC documentary was aired as part of the network's coverage of the one-year anniversary of Sept. 11. During the program, Chrétien revealed that he gave orders to commanders at NORAD's Canadian headquarters in Winnipeg for fighter jets to be prepared to shoot down a Korean Airlines 747 that the U.S. military feared was part of the terrorist plot.

The plane, flying over the Yukon, was being tailed by two U.S. F-16 fighters after giving off a signal that indicated it had been hijacked. A Canadian NORAD commander sought orders from Chrétien to fire on the plane if pilots believed it was headed to a heavily populated city such as Vancouver.

Chrétien said he agonized over the decision.

"He said, 'We might have to shoot them down.' So I said yes, if you think they are terrorists. I said you call me again, but be ready to shoot them down. So I authorized it in principle, yes," he said.

"It is kind of scary. You know this plane that has hundreds of people and you have to call a decision like that.... You have to be ready for that. You have to be calm and in control yourself and say what I'll risk. And if they tell you, there is a plane that can go and land in Toronto and kill thousands of people, you have no choice."

The plane eventually landed safely and the feared hijacking was a false alarm.

There were also new details about why Canadian authorities directed dozens of airline jets to such East Coast airports as Gander International on Sept. 11 after the United States closed its airspace.

Collenette and Margaret Bloodworth, the deputy minister of transport, said there were fears that other planes could be hijacked and Transport Canada did not want to risk attacks on major population centres in Central Canada, so the majority of the jets were sent to the East Coast.

"If there were people of similar intent on those planes and they felt they were going to lose their target in the U.S., we didn't know they wouldn't pick a target of a large building in another city," Bloodworth said.

Said Collenette: "In talking with her, she said we don't know what has happened but we have got to keep these planes away from Montreal or Toronto. I said absolutely."

In all, 250 aircraft with 44,000 people were diverted to 15 Canadian airports. More than 6,500 passengers landed in Gander.


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Please remember there are a lot of Canadians who will be as ticked off at him for this as you Americans. Saddly, there are also a lot of people up here who really do feel that way too.

Feel free give is mail screeners a peice fo your mind at pm@pm.gc.ca

1 posted on 09/12/2002 7:56:19 AM PDT by Grig
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To: Grig
Sadly, most Canadians already know one unassailable fact:

Chrétien is an


2 posted on 09/12/2002 8:02:03 AM PDT by NorthernRight
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To: Grig
Once again Jean Chretien embarrasses our country.

3 posted on 09/12/2002 8:02:42 AM PDT by jerod
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To: Grig
With friends like these (scumbags), who needs enemies...
4 posted on 09/12/2002 8:06:25 AM PDT by Guillermo
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To: Grig
Jean Chrétien has linked the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to perceived Western greed and arrogance

This is obvious. They do perceive us to be greedy and arrogant. It boils down to envy and covetousness.

I like to draw a parallel to Liberals and their underlying (sometimes blatant) class envy and contempt for the "rich" (e.g. "tax cuts for the rich"). Underneath the ethnic and/or religious noise, ...

Liberals and terrorists are consumed by envy.


5 posted on 09/12/2002 8:06:26 AM PDT by newgeezer
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To: Grig
What a friggin' moron. His country is the staging area for a lot the terrorists. The Canadians have less an idea than we do as to who is in there country.
"And I do think that the Western world is getting too rich in relation to the poor world and necessarily will be looked upon as being arrogant and self-satisfied, greedy and with no limits. The 11th of September is an occasion for me to realize it even more."
Perhaps to make things fairer we should close our border with Canada thus making them poorer. The Canadian PM then can feel better about his place in the world. Friggin' moron!
6 posted on 09/12/2002 8:08:05 AM PDT by thegreatbeast
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To: Grig
"You cannot exercise your powers to the point of humiliation for the others."

This is the complaint of all Frenchman since Crecy, Plains of Abraham, and Waterloo.

Oh, and Verdun, the Somme,...

Oh, the humiliation of it all!

He does have a point, however. If you're going to defeat an enemy, crush him absolutely, or the resentments will seep back to the surface before long.

For example, observe Chretien and his Quebecois compatriots. Defeated but not crushed by the Brits--therefore ongoing 'humiliation'. Compare to Scotland.
7 posted on 09/12/2002 8:13:29 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Grig
What do you expect for a country whose money is nicknamed loony.

Canada a Euroweenie wannabe.

8 posted on 09/12/2002 8:16:43 AM PDT by dts32041
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To: thegreatbeast
Perhaps to make things fairer we should close our border with Canada thus making them poorer.

Outside of Beer and Crown Royal, what exactly does Canada produce on its own and import to America? Seems if Americans stopped purchasing Canadian beer and Crown Royal their economy would collpase and the Canadian dollar would be worth about 5 cents.

9 posted on 09/12/2002 8:17:28 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Happygal
Bump for a later read
10 posted on 09/12/2002 8:17:45 AM PDT by Happygal
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To: dts32041
Only the dollar coin is called the Looney. The 2 dollar coin is called the Twooie.
11 posted on 09/12/2002 8:18:33 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Grig
Why is the West, particularly the United States, not given any credit for humanitarian efforts whenever there is a disaster anywhere in the world? It seems that our so called arrogance is all that is mentioned lately...not just by the misguided PM of Canada. Furthermore, even if we were so arrogant, why would that be any excuse or reason for murdering 3000 people? Im sick and friggin tired of these brain dead morons in the world who seems to think so called arrogance and "muscle flexing" can even possibly morally equate to MEGA-mass murder. Those bastards were trying for a number closer to 100,000 than 3000. Im just feeling the need to rant but "BLEEP" you Chrétien
12 posted on 09/12/2002 8:19:06 AM PDT by CastleMan95
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To: Grig
Maybe he meant Mae West or Adam West.
13 posted on 09/12/2002 8:19:09 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Grig
This is just the kind of Canadian filth that is ruining our children. (Link is so a South Park graphic on a previous Canadian thread, where many Canadian Freepers reminded us it's just the Prime Minister and the people who voted him, not all of Canada, that's nuts.)
14 posted on 09/12/2002 8:19:22 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: Grig
Jean Chrétien has linked the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to perceived Western greed and arrogance and said the United States should not use its position as the world's only superpower to humiliate people in poorer nations.

O.K.

Let's use our power to humiliate Canada instead.

15 posted on 09/12/2002 8:20:15 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: CastleMan95
One the of the things that bothers me regarding our aid to countries in need at time of tradegy such as flood, earthquake, volcano, etc... is that the food and material aid that is sent, though paid for by us, is often delivered in a container or sack that says its from the UN.

One of the things we did right in Afghanistan was the food aid sent there said in big letters on the containers "USA".

16 posted on 09/12/2002 8:21:51 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Grig
You really have to be mentally lost to come up with such an apathetic thought process...

Seriously....people spank their children for being this stupid.

17 posted on 09/12/2002 8:35:52 AM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: Phantom Lord
"You cannot exercise your powers to the point of humiliation for the others."
"And I do think that the Western world is getting too rich in relation to the poor world and necessarily will be looked upon as being arrogant and self-satisfied, greedy and with no limits."

Americans work long hard hours to earn what they have. These other countries COULD do that too. They are just lazy like spoiled brats!!!! He is full of LIBERAL BS!!!!! Read ATLAS SHRUGGED about the PRODUCERS and the LOOTERS. USA is a producer. Other countries are LOOTERS.

18 posted on 09/12/2002 8:37:31 AM PDT by buffyt
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To: Phantom Lord
Outside of Beer and Crown Royal, what exactly does Canada produce on its own and import to America?

Timber and forestry products, natural gas, electricity, duck/goose feathers, illegal Cuban cigars, Eskimo Pies, and snotty French speaking tourists.

19 posted on 09/12/2002 8:37:54 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: VaBthang4
I don't get it? What don't you like about his post?
20 posted on 09/12/2002 8:38:07 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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