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Zogby Slams Reports of Celebrating Arabs as "Urban Legends" (MAJOR BARF!)
NBC television | September 11, 2001 | who knows what evil?

Posted on 09/11/2002 12:21:37 PM PDT by who knows what evil?

Did anyone happen to see the segment of 'America Remembers' featuring James Zogby and John McCain between 2:30 and 3:00 p.m.? If so, I can imagine you are as FURIOUS as I am right at the moment! Brokaw was speaking with a gentleman who had lost in wife in the World Trade Center holocaust last September 11th. He was angry with the "silence = consent" attitude of the Muslim community toward the murder of over 3,000 Amercans at this time last year. He cited a poll indicating that "90% of Muslims blame America" for creating the international climate of tension that led to this act of terror. He further expressed his outrage over reports that Palestinians/Muslims/Arabs had been dancing in the streets and handing out candy in celebration of what Osama and his depraved minions had carried out in New York, Washington, and Pennsylvania. In addition, he mentioned that he had friends who had witnessed this in Patterson, New Jersey; among other locations. Having seen the pictures myself, I flew into a rage when I heard James Zogby (representing the Arab-American Institute) debunk these stories as "urban legends". He told the studio audience that these reports were NOT TRUE! Mr. Zogby, you are a lying b*stard, and you know it. To imply that this recent widower is laboring under the delusion of an "urban legend" when those of us who have seen actual photos of these celebrations is an unspeakable outrage. Did anyone else see this? Unbelievable!


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; brokaw; celebrationdenials; end; mccain; nbc; palestinians; urbanlegend; urbanlegends; zogby
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To: Joe Brower
You need to send those pictures to that lying SOS James Zogby.

jzogby@aaiusa.org

101 posted on 09/11/2002 1:19:56 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: RippleFire

102 posted on 09/11/2002 1:19:58 PM PDT by Alouette
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To: who knows what evil?
I am sorry about the "intentionally". That was uncalled for.
103 posted on 09/11/2002 1:20:12 PM PDT by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: who knows what evil?
I sent the following email to my husband, under the heading "unreal," on the afternoon of September 11, 2001. I copied it from the Jerusalem Post online and it came with a picture, but I cut and pasted it and don't have the properties with which to post it here. Here's the text -

(17:55) Israel evacuates embassies, Palestinians celebrate
By The Jerusalem Post Internet Staff


Israel has evacuated all of its embassies throughout the world in the aftermath of today's terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, according to a CNN report.

Reports are indicating residents of eastern Jerusalem, the West Bank, and southern Lebanon are celebrating the mass terror attacks in the United States at this time.

Dozens of Palestinian youths have taken to the streets and are distributing candies on a main thoroughfare passing through eastern Jerusalem.

Israeli police are reportedly clashing with the youths.

Elsewhere in the West Bank, Palestinian Authority policemen are attempting to stop the spontaneous celebrations.




Also, the following is a link to CNN's denial of using "old footage" of the celebrations (as claimed by some and circulated widely by email last fall). CNN asserts that Reuters (HELLO ZOGBY - EXTREMELY LIBERAL, PRO-PALESTINIAN REUTERS) was the source of the video they used and it was quite recent, as in hours old.

http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/20/cnn.statement/

Here's an AP article written by an Arab - http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSWorldTrade0109/11_arafat-ap.html

Here's the Fox News article - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,34187,00.html

A Google search for "Palestinians celebrate attacks" nets quite a return, and the art is not always the same. Anyone got an email address for the fool Zogby?
104 posted on 09/11/2002 1:20:34 PM PDT by agrace
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To: who knows what evil?

Zogby is full of SH*T!!

And he knows it.

FACT: On September 11 residents of the arab community at Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn, New York danced in the streets in celebration of the attacks.

FACT: On September 11 residents of the "palestinian" community at 65th street and 5th Avenue in Brooklyn, New York danced in the streets in celebration of the attacks.

FACT: Some pictures of these "celebrations" were taken and dissapeared from circulation soon thereafter. Someone should make it a project to dig these pictures up.

Next year Zogby will be claiming that the attack on the WTC is an "urban legend".

105 posted on 09/11/2002 1:20:41 PM PDT by Cacique
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To: Phantom Lord; Senator Pardek
I agree. Let's ask Senator. I believe he knows for sure what it was.
107 posted on 09/11/2002 1:22:31 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: agrace
James Zogby ---> email address----> jzogby@aaiusa.org
108 posted on 09/11/2002 1:24:17 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Burkeman1
"...I clearly remember that woman from the 9/11 celebrations....

Of course you remember her. She was shown eight-sextillion times on this forum alone.

Almost, but not quite, as many times as the Rodney King beating was shown to the world to demonstrate what a racist, brutal country the United States of America is.

109 posted on 09/11/2002 1:24:30 PM PDT by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: Right Wing Professor
They seem to conclude that stories about Arab-American celebrations in the US are largely false, but stories about Arabs celebrating in the Mid-East are certainly true.

Obviously, if Arab Americans has celebrated openly by burning flags, we would have heard about their early demise. But there was dancing in the streets of Manhattan. My son saw it.

I suspect, however, that the majority of immigrants came here to escape this madness.

110 posted on 09/11/2002 1:24:48 PM PDT by js1138
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To: John H K
Is it possible that this actually happened in some locations? Possibly.

Then why didn't Mr. Zogby ALLOW for that possibility? His statement was that reports of Palestinians/Arabs celebrating the WTC/Pentagon holocaust were NOT TRUE (regardless of wherever they might have occurred).



111 posted on 09/11/2002 1:25:35 PM PDT by who knows what evil?
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To: dennisw
So, dennisw, you SUPPORT the following:
Rolnik admitted placing a telephone call to Dr. Zogby in Washington on the morning of September 12, 2001, and leaving a voice mail message in which he threatened to kill Dr. Zogby and his children because of Dr. Zogby's role in encouraging others to participate in the political process and the enjoyment of federal benefits without regard to race, color, religion or national origin.
You are on record here as one sick-puppy fanatic, but I admit you CONTINUALLY top yourself every time you post.
112 posted on 09/11/2002 1:25:45 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Phantom Lord
Can you prove it's several years old? On what do you base your claim? In what context was it previously posted on FR? Find on FR where it was posted prior to 9/11. Thanks.
113 posted on 09/11/2002 1:26:35 PM PDT by agrace
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To: Cacique
Next year Zogby will be claiming that the attack on the WTC is an "urban legend".

It wasn't? I mean the International Zionist Conspiracy is likely to come up with anything, no? The whole middle east knows that the so-called "holocaust" was made up by the jews to get sympathy so that the UN would give them control of historic palestine in the first place, displacing the rightfile owners.
114 posted on 09/11/2002 1:27:37 PM PDT by johnb838
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
Are you kidding? Those images were almost never shown after 9/11 or 9/12. I saw them only a couple of times at most and haven't seen them since last 9/11! They were soon replaced with staged images of Palestinians "mourning" the attack.
115 posted on 09/11/2002 1:28:18 PM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: Phantom Lord
http://www.honestreporting.com/critiques/2001/celebrate.jpg

See for yourself

116 posted on 09/11/2002 1:28:27 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: John H K
Do you mind not putting words into Zogby's mouth that he never said? He didn't specify where Muslims did or not celebrate the deaths of many Americans. He is absolutely saying it didn't happen anywhere. That's an indefensible lie.
117 posted on 09/11/2002 1:28:37 PM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: Right Wing Professor
They seem to conclude that stories about Arab-American celebrations in the US are largely false....

Excuse me, but that's exactly what Zogby is saying.

Read back over the thread. Someone posted what they THINK Zogby said, and IMMEDIATELY everyone jumped to the most OUTRAGEOUS conclusions, until now we think we're talking about Zogby saying that no ARABS celebrated 9/11 (which is a patently ridiculous statement; since Arabs of foreign origin perpetrated the attacks, OF COURSE THEY SUPPORTED THEM).

I think a LOT of people here have shown the absolute WORST characteristics of FR in this regard.

We constantly are aghast when the Left, and particularly the Leftist media, ignores the truth and stretches what they do report to cast conservatives in a bad light.

Well, that's exactly what most of the dopes here on this thread are doing with respect to John Zogby.

dennisw takes the prize, of course, for saying Zogby's "evil" for daring to have a Jewish man arrested for threatening Zogby and his family with death (what WAS Zogby thinking, after all?)

But everyone here is piling on, without EVEN bothering to discern the facts.

Not unusual on the "New, Improved" FR of course, but disheartening to witness nonetheless.

118 posted on 09/11/2002 1:31:07 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: nicks bad seed
Given some of the postings on threads I read here about how some posters would like to commit acts of violence against Muslims, I personally don't blame any Muslims for not wanting to be at a group event even if it is a memorial to September 11th victims as some self-righteous simplistic jerk who thinks the acts of a few individuals equal the group may decide it's "get even time".

Really? Approximately 100 people still had the guts to stand up for America's military in Washington on April 20th of this year, even though they knew they would be outnumbered by 50-75,000 demonstrators hostile to their cause. Are you implying that Muslims are cowards? Some, yes; but certainly not all.



119 posted on 09/11/2002 1:31:36 PM PDT by who knows what evil?
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To: OldFriend
"...We are discussing those that DID celebrate our day of murder...."

And THAT is precisely the problem---the BIG problem.

Decent people all over the world are constantly discussing other people based upon images fed to them by saprophytic corporate media corporations. The media feeds and grows rich upon the most dysfunctional, the most ignorant, the most evil members of society.

In the Arab world they constantly discuss Americans based upon the same saprophytic media images.....

120 posted on 09/11/2002 1:32:29 PM PDT by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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