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To: uk_nomad
Israel, by its mere presence in the region, has already pushed its Palestinian population into the largest open-air prison on the planet.

Revisionist history, and hyperbole to boot.

As for knowing both sides of the story, there's no possible way to ever know everything

Copout argument. After 50+ years, I think there is enough history from which to draw a conclusion or two.

You need to keep an open mind in case new information comes to light.

Likewise. While I always try to do so, that should never prevent someone from having an opinion on a situation, even if malleable. Which in fact we all do, whether we admit to that or not. BTW, denial is not the same as openmindedness.

OK....if you say they're liars, please provide examples of where they've lied in the past

I just did!

How is this different from Israelis doing the exact same thing, i.e. moving Palestinians' bodies and arranging the scene so they don't appear guilty of war crimes?

Because one happened, and one did not. Documentation, such as names of the deceased, never match up to what the Pali's claim(ed). They were disproven in their lies, again. How many times can they lie before you will accept that perhaps they are routinely dishonest? If Israel tried to fake something like that, every journalist and movie producer within a 100 miles would expose it. C'mon, you know the spotlight of media inquiry almost always shines on the Israeli's, while ignoring the Pali's. Christian Amanpour, for starters. Need I say more?

As to taqiyyah, yeah, yeah, I am familiar with many of the differences between the various sects. I am also familiar with how supposedly they never cooperate, yet somehow when it comes to terrorism and support of the Pali's these differences evaporate. IIRC, many of the 9/11 hijackers were on a mission for Allah, yet the night before they were partying in strip clubs, in direct disobedience of their sects teachings. So please excuse my scoffing at the notion that members of different sects would not cross-adopt taqiyya and similar techniques if they found it useful. I've heard it invoked too many times as an explanation for why a M. Easterner was dishonest. "But you must understand..."

Situation ethics is the next term that comes to mind.

Anyway, just out of curiousity, are any members of your family Muslims or from the Middle East? You seem to know a good bit about the various sects, so I was wondering where you acquired the knowledge. As to myself, I am Christian(but not an Islam-basher). Here's some trivia: The Muslim vote in Florida in 2000 went 2 to 1 for Bush over Gore. Without it, Gore would be President.

210 posted on 09/10/2002 7:06:50 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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