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Kitty Hawk captain loses control
TimesOnline ^ | 9/4/2002 | Roland Watson in Washington and Glen Owen

Posted on 09/05/2002 4:25:35 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield

The giant aircraft carriers of the US Navy are run like modern cities, boasting 2,400 telephones, six-channel television, five dentists, four shops, two barbers’ shops, two lawyers and one post office. On any one day more than 17,000 meals are being prepared and served for the 5,600-strong crew.

Boarding one is like entering a time warp back to the former Deep South. In the bowels of the carrier, where the crew are cooped up for six months at a time, manual workers sleep dozens to a room. Most are black or Puerto Rican, paid $7,000 to $10,000 a year to work in the broiling temperatures of the kitchens and engine rooms.

As you move up the 11 segregated levels towards the pilots’ quarters beneath the deck, the living quarters become larger, the air cooler and the skin tones lighter. Officers exist in almost total ignorance of the teeming world beneath them, passing around second-hand tales of murders, gang-fights and drug abuse. Visitors are banned from venturing down to the lowest decks, which swelter next to the vast nuclearpowered engines.

Despite the reminders of normality suggested by libraries and supermarkets, there are few real diversions. Television monitors are dotted about the ship relaying news programmes and feature films from the United States, but otherwise the daily routine revolves around work, sleep and repetitive slop from the ship’s canteens. Religious differences are catered for by allowing different denominations to worship in the ships’ chapels — there are 12 Muslim chaplains serving in the US Armed Forces.

Access to the deck, which buzzes with F14 and F18 aircraft taking part in exercises, is banned for all except the flight crew. Every couple of months, the carriers stop for a few days shore leave to restock with supplies and allow the crew to glimpse natural sunlight.

While the officers have the distraction of military exercises, the rest of the crew spend most of their time looking forward to their return. “I wanted to see the world, and board and lodging is free,” is a typical response when questioned about the appeal of life below decks.

“I would only have ended up in prison” is another, frank, explanation offered.

The US Navy, sensitive to claims of on-board racism after well-publicised riots on the Kitty Hawk in the 1970s, has trained recruiting specialists to persuade ethnic candidates that their career opportunities can extend beyond the engine rooms. This was backed by an advertising campaign promising that “You Can Be Black, and Navy Too”.

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Great journalism. They should write a novel and call it, "Uncle Tom's Carrier."
1 posted on 09/05/2002 4:25:35 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield
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To: Marine Inspector; sleavelessinseattle; 2Trievers; swarthyguy; Lazamataz; Snow Bunny; MistyCA; ...
Here's another.
2 posted on 09/05/2002 4:28:59 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: Britton J Wingfield
LOL!

And I don't want to hear them call for a waaaaaaaaaaambulance.....they have e-mail! Try waiting 6 months between letters (communications)

3 posted on 09/05/2002 4:29:11 PM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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ping. Worst slander of the US Navy that I've ever heard.
4 posted on 09/05/2002 4:29:12 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield
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To: Britton J Wingfield
This article is unreal. Such sap.
5 posted on 09/05/2002 4:31:30 PM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Britton J Wingfield
What a bunch of "BS"

Roland Watson in Washington and Glen Owen should get off their behinds and work one month with that crew. Then maybe, just maybe the would understand what it means to serve rather then be served.

Semper Fi

6 posted on 09/05/2002 4:32:12 PM PDT by An Old Man
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FYI for this piece of trash.
7 posted on 09/05/2002 4:32:26 PM PDT by Al B.
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To: Britton J Wingfield
This is an awful article..
8 posted on 09/05/2002 4:32:37 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Al B.; MadIvan
This is UK piece.....

Ivan FYI!

9 posted on 09/05/2002 4:34:10 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Britton J Wingfield
Nope nope..........no agenda here, by God. Nope. No agenda to see here, folks.............move along, now. Move along.................
10 posted on 09/05/2002 4:34:46 PM PDT by RightOnline
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" there are 12 Muslim chaplains serving in the US Armed Forces. "

Let's hope they are not all doing duty in the brig. Perhaps they are all vacationing at some luxurious outpost in Cuba now.

11 posted on 09/05/2002 4:35:47 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: Britton J Wingfield
Total cr@p. I was on Navy ships for two years (Marine Detachment). Oh yeah, I was E-3 not O-3, that's enlisted man to you non-military types. I was 'below decks' in other words.

Not a rose garden but far, far from this B.S. smear peice.

12 posted on 09/05/2002 4:37:52 PM PDT by LibKill
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To: Britton J Wingfield
This has to be parody, right? I don't even see a flyspeck of objectivity in this whole article.
13 posted on 09/05/2002 4:50:27 PM PDT by NYS_Eric
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To: Britton J Wingfield
Most are black or Puerto Rican, paid $7,000 to $10,000 a year to work in the broiling temperatures of the kitchens and engine rooms.

If the liberal press is going to lie, at the very least they could try to lie about things that can't be checked. For example, here is the web page showing monthly pay scales for the Navy from the Secretary of Defense's web site: Military Compensation. The bottom line is that the minimum yearly pay is $12,000 and that doesn't include allowances and tax advantages.

14 posted on 09/05/2002 4:51:26 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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Total crap. The sailors of today have it alot better than I did. We didn't have email, tv, or anything like that.
15 posted on 09/05/2002 4:51:50 PM PDT by Pern
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To: Britton J Wingfield; PsyOp; TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!; An Old Man; Dog; RightOnline; ...
The top half of the article is unfortunately true. I've served on two aircraft carriers (including the Kitty Hawk's predecessor, the Independence). With 5000+ people, there's bound to be a few bad apples. We had them, the Kitty has them, and likely just about every carrier and command in the Navy has them. We don't build brigs for show.

However, the second half is utter garbage. $7-10k a year? Brand-new single E-1 pay, maybe (I made $350 a payday when I first joined--I was single, E-2, and paying into the GI Bill).

And I do so love the insinuations of racism. People from all races and walks of life are represented throughout the ranks, officer and enlisted. In fact, I would contend that military people were less likely to be racist, since we have to live and work in such close quarters. I don't give a damn who or what you are, can you turn a @%&#*! wrench or not?!?!? Sure, there are jackasses who think differently, but they are few and far between.

I'm surprised that the Brits and their Euro-socialist loving ilk don't like the military. The pay is (approximately) the same, the health care is free (to the recipient), and everyone works as a collective towards one goal. Sounds like a "worker's paradise" to me!

But that really isn't the point, I suppose. In such circles, one learns that "all men should be equal, so long as I am treated better than they are and don't have to live by the same rules."

Bah, enough ranting from me. I just hate being slandered by such scum.

R,

FC1 (SW) Skwidd

16 posted on 09/05/2002 4:57:49 PM PDT by Skwidd
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To: vbmoneyspender
I had no idea the Navy had so lowered its recruiting standards in an all volunteer force that they accepted "on their way to prison-or join the navy recruits"...LOL

Sounds like these guys confused a cruise ship with a military aircraft carrier.I have heard drugs do that to people..LOL

17 posted on 09/05/2002 5:02:24 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: Britton J Wingfield
The giant aircraft carriers of the US Navy are run like modern cities

Well, this one's getting a new mayor.
18 posted on 09/05/2002 5:03:56 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: Britton J Wingfield
Bad news for the author; The Kitty Hawk is steam powered, not nuclear.
19 posted on 09/05/2002 5:05:45 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine
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To: Pern
Total crap. The sailors of today have it alot better than I did. We didn't have email, tv, or anything like that.

Heh, as my grandfather is so quick to remind me (WW2 era cook).

Email is a recent innovation. I first saw it onboard ships in 1997 (Independence), though I'm sure other ships had it first. But here, this ought to really twist ya--they have phones now, too! AT&T phones were also onboard the Indy. They were hell to keep working, but they were available.

The satellite dish for the network was on the port side, just above the Sea Sparrow deck--that means that if you turn just right, the superstructure blocks the signal to the satellite. I always knew whenever the AT&T phones were down, because the phone in my shop (ship's phone) would start ringing off the hook; one of the guys I worked with had maintaining the satellite dish as a (unwanted) collateral duty.

20 posted on 09/05/2002 5:07:20 PM PDT by Skwidd
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