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[Sir Gawain]

A recent article posted on the Neo-conservative website FreeRepublic described President Bush’s developing foreign policy as "Lincolnesque but on a world-wide scale."

Heh.

[gcruse]

Good article. And full of truth.

[11B3]

I've read some real tripe from LR here in the past, but this one is a Daisy Cutter filled with puke. The LP is beginning to resemble the Nader bunch with some McKinney thrown in for good measure. While I don't agree with everything the administration has done, I'm damn glad President Bush is in there and not a Libertarian. Even Gore would have been better than the current crop of LP "intellectuals".

[weikel]

he would have 60 or 70 heavily armed Marines break down the door to Senator Daschle’s home in the middle of the night, throw him into military prison without charging him with any crime, and eventually deporting him.

You know Im liking the idea of Bush acting like Lincoln more all the time.

[PGalt]

Would DiLorenzo equate John Wilkes Boothe with the 9/11 terrorists? Talk about a misuse of an analogy. Setting up a strawman argument again, eh Tommy?

...mass murder, as all wars are...

What a moron.

[john in missouri]

President Bush might also consider re-instituting the draft, and instructing the draft board to conscript primarily young registered Democrats...

If President Bush really wants to be considered to be "Lincolnesque" he would have 60 or 70 heavily armed Marines break down the door to Senator Daschle’s home in the middle of the night, throw him into military prison without charging him with any crime, and eventually deporting him [straight to the country we would be at war with].

You know, I'm not a huge fan either of Lincoln or this article, but.. damn if the author didn't come up with a couple of good ideas! :-)

[Tauzero]

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Anyone who might be tempted to buy DiLorenzo's book, should definitely read Mark Neely's "Southern Rights: Political Prisoners and the Myth of Confederate Constitutionalism." Nations in danger do resort to extreme means. Bush has shown admirable restraint so far, and Lincoln himself was not the tyrant Di Lorenzo makes him out to be.

[Coeur de Lion]

I hate to see the comparison made that somehow Bush is Lincolnesque. The travails which faced Lincoln are not the ones which face Bush. Bush is not facing a civil war so even though I think he's doing a good job and his administration will do the right thing; it really isn't the same.

As for Lincoln, he essentially re-established this country making it true to the principles laid out in the Declaration of Independence.

The South had no right to secession, they had a right to rebellion and if they had succeeded then, I don't thing the topic would be one we'd be discussing now. Constitutional rule of law applied in the republic and in order to secede required nothing less than changing the constitution itself. A state couldn't decide which federal laws applied to it anymore than a state could decide to leave the Union; for all intents and purposes it was the same thing. To be allowed to do so would've made a mockery of the Constitution itself. The Southern states had a means of seceding from the Union. All they had to do was petition Congress to pass a constitutional amendment allowing the petitioning states to secede. If it passed the muster of Congress and the states no problem.

They didn't choose this route. They rebelled instead. And why? it wasn't because they thought Mr. Lincoln and his party were going to abolish slavery. It was because they saw the writing the wall; which was the institution of slavery would not be allowed to move into any other territories of the United States. It would be confined to the present slave states and its abolishment was only a matter of time, which was when the number of free states outnumbered the slave states with a sufficient majority to pass a constitutional amendment outlawing the peculiar institution. They figured let's get out now while the gettin's good.

Finally, it was Lincoln's duty in order to uphold the Constitution to prevent secession.

[sheltonmac]

Lincoln’s Bush's political strategy, carried out by the propaganda arm of the Republican Party known as the "Union League," "FreeRepublic," was to spread the lie that all of these men were traitors and Confederate terrorist sympathizers.

Having been branded a "traitor" and "terrorist sympathizer" by fellow FReepers, I can relate to what DiLorenzo is saying.

[Aurelius]

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