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UK 'running out of gas'
BBC NEWS ^ | Friday, 30 August, 2002, 11:06 GMT 12:06 UK |  Science/Nature  

Posted on 08/30/2002 3:15:13 PM PDT by dgallo51

The UK could start experiencing gas shortages within as little as two years, scientists are warning.

A report by the Royal Academy of Engineering, submitted to Energy Minister Brian Wilson on Friday, predicts the UK could have to import virtually all the gas it needs as early as 2020 because it will no longer have enough of its own.

It attacks the government's energy policy as "hopelessly unrealistic" and says it places too much emphasis on renewable energy.

Professor Ian Fells, one of the report's authors, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that the problem with the government's energy policy was that it was market-led, and there was no long-term planning.

------------------------------------------------------------------------ " We've got accustomed to just switching on the taps in the North Sea " ------------------------------------------------------------------------

Professor Ian Fells, Royal Academy of Engineering

Professor Fells warned: "If you hit a really cold winter or few days, that would stretch our gas supply because we have next to no storage capacity in this country

"Our friends in Germany and France really have quite large storage built in.

"We've got accustomed to just switching on the taps in the North Sea, and it's always provided what we needed.

"That means we've got to build a huge infrastructure to store gas to deal with those difficult times."

He added: "The problem gets much worse with gas if you close down all the nuclear stations, as seems to be the route ahead, you close down the coal-fired stations and then you rely on huge chunks of renewable energy.

"Renewable energy is very important, but it's largely intermittent so that has to be backed up."

Finite resource

Energy Minister Brian Wilson said the report, written as part of a consultation process prior to the publication of a White Paper, raised "important and challenging" issues.

He said: "If things go on as they are at present time, then 70% of energy comes from gas by 2020 and 90% of that gas is imported.

"What's therefore important is that both the infrastructure and the contracts are in place which will sustain that kind of dependence on gas."

"It calls into question whether it was all that clever to go so heavily for gas over the last 20 years when our indigenous resource is so finite."

Mr Wilson added the expected shortage of gas raised other questions.

"Do we allow nuclear electricity, the only major source of non-carbon electricity at the present time, to fade away at exactly the time when we need to have a clean and indigenous component in our energy mix to balance the challenges in gas that Professor Fells refers to?"

And he accepted there were impediments to meeting the target of 10% of energy coming from renewable sources such as wind, hydro and landfill gas by 2010.

------------------------------------------------------------------------ Related to this story: Nuclear power may rise again (30 Aug 02 | Science/Nature) Blair warned on carbon cuts (13 Dec 01 | Science/Nature) Government fails to meet 'green' targets (27 Nov 01 | Politics) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Internet links: Department of Trade and Industry | Royal Academy of Engineering The BBC is not responsible for the content of external internet sites


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gasshortages; hydro; infrastructure; landfillgas; nuclear; renewableenergy; whitepaper; wind
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Maybe they ought to follow the California model…
1 posted on 08/30/2002 3:15:13 PM PDT by dgallo51
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To: dgallo51
BTW, I think the professor means natural gas, not 'petrol,' when he refers to the coming UK gas shortage.
2 posted on 08/30/2002 3:29:38 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: Looking for Diogenes
Maybe he means flatulance ;-)
3 posted on 08/30/2002 3:39:13 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: dgallo51
Britain, it seems to me, is doing precisely the correct things it needs to in order to ensure its imminent collapse.

The old railway that connected my area to the mainstream areas of Scotland and the UK was demolished long ago. But the high taxes on petrol were supposed to go to improve public transport. There is a grass roots movement in my community to have the railway brought back. They say they hope to be able to accomodate us within the next generation.

In the meantime, we have only two two laned winding roads to get back and forth to Edinburgh or to the south and England. And of course every five miles or so there are speeding cameras. So not only do we have intolerably high petrol, we have no proper route to get to where the high paying jobs are and the purpose of the higher tax (public transport) will likely not be realized in our lifetimes... Not to mention the NHS is already in a shambles and the only thing to remedy it without privatization (I wish) will be to raise taxes.

As the saying goes- "that's how they get you"...

4 posted on 08/30/2002 3:56:32 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
There will never be a shortage of wind in Great Britain. This professor is a good example of a portable wind generator.
5 posted on 08/30/2002 4:03:52 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: Looking for Diogenes
There will never be a shortage of wind in Great Britain.

Yes, but like he says, it's the ability to store this gas that bedevils the UK. Now on the continent they have managed to lay up a quantity of it for use when normal sources fail ;-)

6 posted on 08/30/2002 4:07:15 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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Britain is about to experience a series of disasters that will leave the whole world aghast. Within less than 10 years, the USA will have had to go in and occupy on a street-by-street basis to try to preserve some semblance of civilization.

Wanna know why, read Kipling's Recessional. They has done recessed, now, and they know it. Having sowed the wind, they will weep the whirlwind.

7 posted on 08/30/2002 4:10:17 PM PDT by crystalk
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"The problem gets much worse with gas if you close down all the nuclear stations, as seems to be the route ahead..."

Well, the solution is obvious, isn't it?

8 posted on 08/30/2002 4:10:17 PM PDT by Fresh Wind
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There is a grass roots movement in my community to have the railway brought back

Do it right then. Maglev.

9 posted on 08/30/2002 4:12:27 PM PDT by RightWhale
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Do it right then. Maglev.

I... I... I... I'm speechless!!!

I've won a convert!!!

:-)


10 posted on 08/30/2002 4:23:43 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
Hey, what are friends for? Anyway, if it's a new line, why not use new tech?
11 posted on 08/30/2002 4:25:14 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
Why thank-you! I certainly appreciate that!
12 posted on 08/30/2002 4:30:36 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Prodigal Son
The environmental movement has been hijacked by persons with sinister motives. By shrouding themselves in "mother earth", with popular media mindlessly ready from prepared scripts, they intentionally tear concerned followers apart with intentional contradictions in order to manipulate them. I'm afraid our friends in the UK are about to receive a rude wake up call. Keep your biomass fuels handy!
13 posted on 08/30/2002 5:34:02 PM PDT by dgallo51
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To: Looking for Diogenes
I was refering to California's solution to their natural gas crisis…it was a knock on Gov. Davis…sorry to be so obtuse.
14 posted on 08/30/2002 5:52:30 PM PDT by dgallo51
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To: Prodigal Son
Good one…ouch! I resemble that remark.
15 posted on 08/30/2002 5:54:42 PM PDT by dgallo51
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To: Fresh Wind
Not if you're a card carrying member in good standing in the Flat Earth Society.
16 posted on 08/30/2002 5:56:28 PM PDT by dgallo51
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To: RightWhale
But only on sunny or windy days.
17 posted on 08/30/2002 5:58:01 PM PDT by dgallo51
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To: crystalk
Britain is about to experience a series of disasters that will leave the whole world aghast. Within less than 10 years, the USA will have had to go in and occupy on a street-by-street basis to try to preserve some semblance of civilization.

You can post 100 sane and logical things in a row, but then you eventually post something like this in order to remind us that you are completely off your rocker.

18 posted on 08/30/2002 6:07:49 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Willie Green
You'd be surprised to find out that Im a fan of maglev myself too. BUT I don't want it to be another inefficient wasteful taxpayer boondoggle abolish Amtrak and let the private sector put it up.
19 posted on 08/31/2002 1:58:31 AM PDT by weikel
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To: Dog Gone
Well now ain't everyone off their rocker. I don't think I know any sane people the human brain doesn't seem to be wired for sanity.
20 posted on 08/31/2002 1:59:51 AM PDT by weikel
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