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City Attorney Says Charges Could Be Dropped Against (KMart) Arrestees
KPRC Channel 2 Houston ^ | August 28, 2002

Posted on 08/28/2002 1:02:00 PM PDT by Dog Gone

HOUSTON -- Houston's Police Chief C.O. Bradford addressed concerns Wednesday about a Kmart parking lot raid earlier this month in which dozens of people were arrested.

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The raid happened Aug. 19 in the parking lot of a Kmart department store, located in the 8400 block of Westheimer Road, in southwest Houston.

HPD officials had previously said that it conducted the crackdown in response to numerous complaints from citizens and previous police surveillance regarding street racing and large crowds forming in the area.

Police said that these crowds impeded the access to and from businesses and that as a result of the operation 278 people were arrested with the majority being charged with criminal trespass.

"Zero tolerance does not override the need for probable cause to issue citations or to make arrests, nor does it mean to arrest everyone in sight," Bradford said.

Bradford answered some tough questions Wednesday for more than two hours by some members of the City Council.

He admitted that the parking lot raid arrests may be illegal, if people were never told they were trespassing and given a chance to leave.

Bradford said that if that's true, then he wonders why his officers followed an illegal order to arrest everyone.

"No officer in the Houston Police Department has ever been cited with insubordination or any other offense for their refusal to obey an unlawful order nor will they be on my watch," Bradford said.

Councilman Mark Ellis and others said that they wondered why no one blew the whistle before this raid, because a smaller sweep was done the night before at a James Coney Island eatery in which 25 people were arrested.

"Friday night, I didn't know. A chief in charge of the department didn't know, because no one reported it in a significant event report that it had occurred," Bradford said. "So, therefore, there was not that opportunity to intervene before the next night occurred."

The city attorney told the council that if an internal affairs investigation reveals that the arrests were illegal, the city will dismiss all of the charges against all of the people and even overturn the convictions for those who pleaded guilty to get out of jail.

Thirteen officers have been suspended in the wake of the raid, including the officer in charge of the operation, Capt. Mike Aguirre.

One of those people arrested has filed a $100 million lawsuit against the city, accusing Aguirre and the city of falsely arresting him for "attempted trespass."



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: kmartraid
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1 posted on 08/28/2002 1:02:00 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Who's going to pay for the towing?
2 posted on 08/28/2002 1:02:44 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Who indeed? Nobody seems to be addressing that little potential problem ...
3 posted on 08/28/2002 1:11:42 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: Dog Gone
One of those people arrested has filed a $100 million lawsuit against the city, accusing Aguirre and the city of falsely arresting him for "attempted trespass."

Let's see, 100 million, times 278....Looks like no payraise or Christmas donut bonus for the Houston PD boys this year!

4 posted on 08/28/2002 1:13:03 PM PDT by archy
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To: Thud; Arkinsaw; neutrino; Spirited; Fixit; FITZ; sweetliberty; freebilly; Dec31,1999; niki; ...
Finally, some official backpedaling.
5 posted on 08/28/2002 1:14:28 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: archy
If I was one of the 278, I'd have no problem settling for a hundredth of the initial amount requested.
6 posted on 08/28/2002 1:17:37 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: archy
Heck they don't have the money now to hire the appropriate people to do the job. Leepee OuttaTown Brown spends city money on more important things, such as:

$5,000 for a class on public speaking so he can give a "State of the City Address" (and this after he had been mayor for 3 years)
An all expense paid trip to Africa for himself and his wife (visiting a sister city, so they claimed)
$15,000 (I believe) for a Welcome to Houston sign at the major airport, it has his picture and name on it, and the way it is designed it cannot be changed when he is no longer in office.
Pamphlets out of the Education Department on bettering education and indorcing higher learning.... It was filled with spelling and grammar errors.

The list is endless. Should this city survive Brown and his 3 terms, without going into bankruptcy, I will be highly surprised.

7 posted on 08/28/2002 1:18:37 PM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: RikaStrom
Outta town brown was the police commissioner of NYC.....he was a disaster. Why in the world did the people in Texas want him there?
8 posted on 08/28/2002 1:21:56 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: Dog Gone
Refresh my memory of events here. For a year the people at Wal-Mart have been complaining to the police to get rid of these people who are blocking traffic and generally causing havoc. The police have been warning them to stop the drag racing on the streets and causing havoc in the parking lots. But like alll good parents who say my JOHNNY NEVER DOES ANYTHING WRONG SO THE GESTOPO,FACISTS, POLICE THUGS HAVE TO BE WRONG. Now when the nut case kids get killed while drag racing the parents of my johnny does no wrong sues Wal-Mart and the policee from not protecting their kids from themselvs. Makes a lot of sense that free epublic would go with the parents.
9 posted on 08/28/2002 1:31:11 PM PDT by cksharks
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To: OldFriend
Why in the world did the people in Texas want him there?

You'd have to understand the strange politics, and the shadow government that exists in Houston politics. He was annointed by what is known in other cities as the Chamber of Commerce, and installed with the help of the Houston Chronicle.

Brown has been a useful stooge to the people who wanted new stadiums, urban renewal, and higher taxes. Ken Lay, for example, was a big backer of Brown.

10 posted on 08/28/2002 1:31:29 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: OldFriend
Out of town Brown was also chief of HPD before he worked in the Clinton administration. You think they knew him well enough after that. He was not well liked amoung the rank and file and was an outsider brought in by then Mayor Kathy Witmire.

However, the mayorial vote was primarialy along racial lines.
11 posted on 08/28/2002 1:35:03 PM PDT by Cryptic_One
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To: Dog Gone
The HPD better hope the civil rights lawsuits coming in don't get transferred to Tyler.
12 posted on 08/28/2002 1:37:17 PM PDT by lavrenti
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To: Cryptic_One
Do the people know or care that he is corrupt beyond measure?
13 posted on 08/28/2002 1:37:23 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: Dog Gone
The city attorney and the city's insurance companies have probably been screaming at him.
14 posted on 08/28/2002 1:40:05 PM PDT by Thud
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To: Dog Gone
Dog....

In years to come,we are going to hear more of this "lawful-unlawful" orders affair.

15 posted on 08/28/2002 1:43:16 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: lavrenti
What's the thing about Tyler?
16 posted on 08/28/2002 1:43:22 PM PDT by Free Trapper
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To: cksharks
For a year the people at Wal-Mart have been complaining to the police to get rid of these people who are blocking traffic and generally causing havoc.

Nice to know you spent so much time and effort informing yourself to arrive at your opinion. Go read the rest of the posts before jumping to the wrong conclusions.

Kmart wanted the problem dealt with -- loiterers and drag racers.

Unfortunately, HPD went nuts. Rather than going after the loiterers and drag racers, they just started swooping in, blocking exits, and arresting every single person present, including legitimate customers, on bogus charges.

The James Coney Island raid was conducted on adults who had been meeting for ten years with the blessing of the owner of the establishment and were doing absolutely nothing wrong.

Because the police made no effort to separate legitimate patrons from loiterers in either raid, they destroyed their own credibility.

The drag racers and loiterers need to be dealt with, but that probably isn't possible now.

17 posted on 08/28/2002 1:52:33 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: cksharks
The police have been warning them to stop the drag racing on the streets and causing havoc in the parking lots.

If only that were true. An editorial by a nearby resident said that the police only dispersed the crowd "two or three times in the past six months". The HPD let this grow into a big problem, then responded with military tactics.

If they had been patrolling the area, dispersing crowds, handing out tickets for loitering, and arresting people that actually committed a crime over the past six months, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Now when the nut case kids get killed while drag racing the parents of my johnny does no wrong sues Wal-Mart and the policee from not protecting their kids from themselvs.

Only 42 of the 278 arrested were juveniles. The rest were legally adults. Are you going to blame their parents, too?

Most of us are questioning the actions of the police, which are very likely to be found illegal under Texas law. That doesn't mean that there wasn't a problem: only that the response to the problem was inappropriate.

18 posted on 08/28/2002 1:57:15 PM PDT by justlurking
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To: hopespringseternal
Kmart wanted the problem dealt with -- loiterers and drag racers.

Actually, it's not even clear that K-Mart wanted the problem to be dealt with. The Police Chief admitted today that K-Mart did not sign an affidavit requesting the police to conduct this action, and K-Mart earlier stated that they did not request this raid.

19 posted on 08/28/2002 1:57:45 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: OldFriend
Do the people know or care that he is corrupt beyond measure?

He is a minority democrat. I don't think he is so much corrupt (even his arch-enemies allow that he is a nice guy) as he is profoundly incompetent. His incompetence effectively amounts to handing out blank checks on the city treasury to the corrupt and wealthy like Ken Lay.

Houston is taking in record revenue because of property valuation inflation, and running in the red because Houston's powerful and wealthy are raiding the treasury.

20 posted on 08/28/2002 1:57:57 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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