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To: rmlew
1. How bad of person could one be before you would oppose beautifacation?
2. What is the worst thing they could do to Jews before you would say, it is too much?

1. What an odd question. The process that leads to beatification is rigorous. It is also based in a historical context. You're looking at Isabella with 21st century eyes. Popes with servants would never be eligible for canonization, in your world. I assume the Church will apply the same diligence to Isabella it applies to every other saint it recognizes.

2. Jews should not be persecuted, and never should have been persecuted. Blacks should not be slaves, and never should have been slaves. Looking at the 15th century through a present-day lens is simply historical revisionism and distorts the events and motivations of people of the time.

It is typically the Jewish left which, like blacks pushing reparations, will simply not turn the page.

10 posted on 08/27/2002 5:27:51 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
1. What an odd question. The process that leads to beatification is rigorous. It is also based in a historical context. You're looking at Isabella with 21st century eyes. Popes with servants would never be eligible for canonization, in your world. I assume the Church will apply the same diligence to Isabella it applies to every other saint it recognizes.

Then why the complaint? Some Jewish groups are pointing out a flaw in Isabella. Catholics should thank them for preventing a mistake like sanctifying a sinner.

2. Jews should not be persecuted, and never should have been persecuted. Blacks should not be slaves, and never should have been slaves. Looking at the 15th century through a present-day lens is simply historical revisionism and distorts the events and motivations of people of the time.

Motivations?
I suppose theft, cancellation of debt owed by the crown, and revenge should be balanced by the desire of Ferdinand and Isabella to unify Spain.

I believe that some crimes cannot be overlooked. They did not inherit a situation like slavery. They created the crime.

It is typically the Jewish left which, like blacks pushing reparations, will simply not turn the page.

The left is using this to attack the Church. I'm just disappointed.
Some things should not be gotten over.

11 posted on 08/27/2002 5:54:50 PM PDT by rmlew
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