Iraq Opposition Officers Connect with a Hashemite Prince to Replace Saddam (Jordan Participates!)

MEMRI (Middle East Media Research Institute) ^ | August 22, 2002 | Dr. Nimrod Raphaeli

[Recovering_Democrat]

Well, now, hold on...I thought everyone in the world wanted Saddam to stay in power! Gosh, I guess the New York Times was wrong....AGAIN!!!

[AnnaZ]

Gosh, I guess the New York Times was wrong....AGAIN!!!

For the second (#1 ) time today... they just suck incredibly.

[sarasmom]

chess mot checkers.

GWB is showing himself to be brilliant in international affairs.He is indeed a patient man.

If he changes his domestic policy to coincide with the will of the people, he will be a two term president with an awesome legacy.

Either way, I thank him for what he has done for this country to date.

[Thinkin' Gal]

The Strategic Significance of Re-establishing the Hashemite Kingdom in Iraq

Daniel 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

[ImpBill]

Oh how wonderful! Let's replace a murdering despot dictator with another Arab Oligarchy like in Saudi Arabia.

[crystalk]

"And by peace he shall destroy many."

The prophetic significance of these schemes is that they restore the Islamic caliphate, which ceased to exist in 1922 when the Ottoman sultans were deposed by Britain.

In Revelation 13, we are told that one of the seven heads of historic Islam down thru the centuries would receive blows seemingly unto death, but this deadly blow would be undone and it would go forth to wow and amaze and awe the entire world.

Then the USA (second beast) would create a watered-down Islam to appeal to Westerners (image to the Beast)...and enforce its worship here!

BTW All should get the very illustrative painting of the Beasts of Rev 13 by Carol Marvenko...available on net.

[weikel]

The Hashemites are the only sane Arab leaders wohoo. King Abdullah can replace the Saudis too.

[weikel]

Jordan is not a klepocratic theocratic intolerant clan government like Saudi is its more like a true monarchy.

[Mike Darancette]

Jordan is not a klepocratic theocratic intolerant clan government like Saudi is its more like a true monarchy.

Probably only because they are poor as dirt.

[weikel]

I think Abdullah and the Hashemites are more rational then the Saud family. Oil money and Islam don't mix too well together I agree.

[TheDon]

I was talking to someone on FR not too long ago about Iraq and the Hashemites, but I didn't know Iraq had been ruled by the Hashemites so recently.

Let's see, overthrow Iraq, and return it to the Hashemites, hmmm, I wonder if they would trade Jordan for Iraq? Then, turn Jordan over to the Pali Arabs for a homeland, thus returning Gaza and the West Bank to Israel. Did I miss anything? It's fun playing ruler of the world for a day.

[sheik yerbouty]

Molto bene!

[Mike Darancette]

Did I miss anything?

Yep - Give guardianship of Mecca and Medena back to the Hashemites (It was taken from them in the '20s by Britain and the Saudis).

This thread has covered in concept the veiled threat to the Saudis offered up by the much maligned Rand Report.

[weikel]

The Palis should be forced deep into the Saudi desert. The Jordanian Beduins seem like one of the few decent groups of Arabs. I would not hand them over to the Pallies.

[Le-Roy]

...and of course the people behind this organization have no ulterior motive in presenting attractive alternatives to the current regime in Iraq.

Why are so many here these days so willing to subscribe to the idea that 'the end justifies the means'? Whatever happened to the Constitution? The laudable, and quite accurate, ideal of 'no foreign entanglements'?

War will come, and it will make some of you feel good for awhile, but after the bodies are all buried (even some of your kin), the flags have faded, the medals grown dusty, and the world (and human nature) has not essentially changed...history will look back on this as just another in a long line of (at best) mistaken missions of arrogant American foreign policy.

In the meantime, we will have established a totalitarian police-state that has abandoned even any pretense of the Constitution being in any way relevant...except as a curiosity of a past that they will tell you never was...and they will silence any who dare to disagree.

[Verginius Rufus]

This could be an inspired idea, like Talleyrand's suggesting the restoration of the Bourbons in 1814 when Napoleon was forced to abdicate, but it would depend on how willing the Iraqis generally would be to accept such a solution. The lapse of time since the overthrow of the Hashemites in 1958 is twice as long as the interval between the overthrow of Louis XVI in 1792 and the restoration of his brother in 1814; most Iraqis are not old enough to remember the monarchy.

[PhilDragoo]

If the Iraqi leadership in the post-Saddam regime, with the tacit support and endorsement of the United States, were to invite Prince Hassan to re-establish the monarchy in Iraq, the move will have a far-reaching strategic significance in the Middle East. First, a Hashemite Iraq, with its enormous oil and natural gas wealth, with an educated population, and a traditionally vibrant middle class will serve as a countervailing balance to the dominance of Saudi Arabia in the area and in the oil world.

Would you like some more barbecue, Prince Bandar?

[Recovering_Democrat]

whoa. tin foil in overdrive today.

[Le-Roy]

Call it whatever you like...but I'd like to see how you'll look back on it twenty or thirty years from now.

[Recovering_Democrat]

I'll call it tin-foil overdrive. ;-)