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Broadcast nets grapple with racier fare
The Hollywood Reporter via Yahoo ^ | Fri Aug 23, 4:37 AM ET | Andrew Wallenstein

Posted on 08/23/2002 1:34:04 PM PDT by weegee

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1 posted on 08/23/2002 1:34:05 PM PDT by weegee
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The double standard infuriates Bochco. "It's one thing to see a model spilling out of her skimpy little top, which is just a blatant grab for the sexual attention of the audience; it's another to see two people making love," he said.

Neither are essential to the "plot".

2 posted on 08/23/2002 1:35:27 PM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
If you want to see a real cop show, watch "The Wire" on HBO.
3 posted on 08/23/2002 1:38:01 PM PDT by Publius
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To: weegee
and why was saying the word shit considered to be such a cutting edge innovation?
4 posted on 08/23/2002 2:07:09 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: weegee
Keep pushing the standards. The farther they push, the bigger the backlash is when they cross the line. Just as Opie and Anthony.
5 posted on 08/23/2002 2:08:41 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: weegee
The TV networks can find attractive women to take off their clothes in front of the entire country, and I can't find an attractive woman who will have dinner with me. Something's wrong with this picture.

WFTR
Bill

6 posted on 08/23/2002 2:10:51 PM PDT by WFTR
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To: Publius
If you want to see a real cop show, watch "The Wire" on HBO.

Despite liking some of their series, we cancelled our HBO when I realized that I could just not support, through my subscription dollars, their making more Liberal Propaganda Moviesof the Week. I think it was their attempt to rehabilitate the image of LBJ that finally pushed me over the edge. No Cinemax, either. As a bonus, it greatly reduced the amount of smut that I accidentally surf into.

7 posted on 08/23/2002 2:13:30 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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"If you want to see a real cop show, watch "The Wire" on HBO."

Word!

8 posted on 08/23/2002 2:52:58 PM PDT by TightSqueeze
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To: Question_Assumptions
rehabilitate the image of LBJ

That image is not rehabilitatable. The dark days of the Democratic Party started with Johnson.

9 posted on 08/23/2002 2:59:03 PM PDT by oyez
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To: weegee
It always amazes me how liberals will critique the regulatory "race to the bottom" of private industry, but won't criticize the cultural "race to the bottom" of big media companies.

All of this crap should be verboten on T.V. You want smut, pay for it special.

10 posted on 08/23/2002 3:00:47 PM PDT by HumanaeVitae
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To: WFTR
I'm a film buff and read tons of stuff on movie-making which used to be considered an art form. The personal lives of these people are far from family fare.

If analytical psychiatric principles were to be employed, the conclusion would be that these voyeurs can't get it on the "normal" way, and have to resort to getting their kicks on the film set watching some bimbo take off her top.

The Hollyweird types are a bunch of warped individuals who inflict their sexual inadequacies on the rest of us.

11 posted on 08/23/2002 3:06:54 PM PDT by Liz
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It's funny how they refuse to see any cause and effect in behavior with such programming but the left ia all in agreement that seeing a character smoking (good guy or bad girl) somehow glamorizes tobacco and gets kids to light up.
12 posted on 08/23/2002 3:41:23 PM PDT by weegee
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These people can't decide just how far down into the sewer they can sink.

Maybe I can help: There is no limit to human depravity. If you're expecting to touch bottom somewhere, forget it. There is no bottom. You just get deeper and deeper into filth and eventually horror. Ever heard of snuff films? That's not the bottom either. It can always get worse. And if it can, it will.

13 posted on 08/23/2002 4:09:05 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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"Maybe I can help: There is no limit to human depravity."

It's nice to see a fellow conservative with an appropriate estimation of human nature on these boards--counteracts all the "perfect world if we only had total freedom" libertarians.

14 posted on 08/23/2002 5:04:41 PM PDT by HumanaeVitae
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What is it about conservatives that keeps them from grasping the concept of the "OFF" button?
15 posted on 08/23/2002 5:08:07 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: oyez
Wrong they started with Woodrow Wilson while it was true Johnson was bad Wilson was worse.
16 posted on 08/23/2002 5:57:14 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Redcloak
Tell you what. Move your kids into a crackhouse and try to keep them off drugs. After a month see if "it's the parents responsibility..." or "just don't talk to the pushers" sounds like a good idea.
17 posted on 08/23/2002 7:13:07 PM PDT by HumanaeVitae
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OK... I'm in a helpful mood... Tell me a little about your TV set. Does it have a little push-button to turn it on? Or is it a little knob that you turn? For the former, that would be the push button, firmly press the button until the TV stops doing things. For the other kind, turn the knob counter-clockwise? Which way is counter-clockwise? Never mind. Just turn it a bit. If the sound gets louder, turn it the other way. Keep turning until you hear a click.

If all of this is too technical, reach around to the back of the set and feel for cords. At least one of these goes to the wall. Give it a tug. If it doesn't want to come out, try tugging on another. Eventually, you'll find the one that comes easily out of the wall. This will solve all of your problems.

(Just be glad that we don't life in a world of intrusive busybodies; like in Orwell's 1984. The sets in 1984 wouldn't turn off.)
18 posted on 08/23/2002 7:21:33 PM PDT by Redcloak
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Ok...I'm in a helpful mood...it's called the "Social Contract". You give up freedom to live harmoniously with other people.

Question: the Supreme Court recently ruled that simulated child pornography is protected by the First Amendment. Let's say your next door neighbor takes a piece of this filth pornography and blows it up to 12' by 12' and constructs a billboard of it in his front yard. It's "his property" and he's "not hurting anyone" and "no child is being harmed". If you're a libertarian, you should have no problem with that, right?

19 posted on 08/23/2002 8:06:34 PM PDT by HumanaeVitae
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To: WFTR
The TV networks can find attractive women to take off their clothes in front of the entire country, and I can't find an attractive woman who will have dinner with me. Something's wrong with this picture.

You don't pay as well as the networks do. ;)

20 posted on 08/23/2002 9:29:38 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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