Same-sex marriage heading to court

Star News ^ | August 22, 2002 | Matthew Tully

[Khepera]

ICLU, 6 plaintiffs plan to sue to demand right to wed in Indiana, the first such suit in state.

Three local homosexual couples are expected to file a lawsuit today demanding the right to marry here, making Indiana the latest battleground in the fight over same-sex marriages.

[Khepera]

Indiana Does not need this!

[Momaw Nadon]

Three local homosexual couples are expected to file a lawsuit today demanding the right to marry

Be careful what you ask for...

[andy_card]

Who cares? Really, I could care less if homosexuals were given the right to marry. So why not let them? It wouldn't make my marriage any less meaningful (of course we can debate whether that's a good thing or not), and I have a hard time believing that this would change much of anything. If two men want to marry, or beat each other over the head with clubs, or watch Oprah reruns all day, it really doesn't affect anyone except themselves.

[f.Christian]

>Creation/God...Christianity---secular-govt.-humanism/SCIENCE---CIVILIZATION!

Originally the word liberal meant social conservatives(no govt religion--none) who advocated growth and progress---mostly technological(knowledge being absolute/unchanging)based on law--reality... UNDER GOD---the nature of GOD/man/govt. does not change. These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values(private/personal) GROWTH(limited NON-intrusive PC Govt/religion---schools)!

Evolution...Atheism-dehumanism---TYRANNY...

Then came the SPLIT SCHIZOPHRENIA/ZOMBIE/BRAVE-NWO America---

[Carry_Okie]

Who cares? Really, I could care less if homosexuals were given the right to marry. So why not let them?

With marriage comes the option to adopt.

Do you care about that?

[A Ruckus of Dogs]

Polygamists will be next.

Seriously, the state should not be in the business of issuing marriage licenses, any more than they do licenses to have children.

[andy_card]

With marriage comes the option to adopt. Do you care about that?

Um, gays and lesbians already adopt in most places.

[andy_card]

Polygamists will be next.

So what? If any man is stupid enough to want more than one wife, we don't need the State to come in and bring him to his senses. Polygamy should be legal.

[f.Christian]

In away...at least to the young---a marriage license is a child license!

Probably why it all happened...the reason(children) of it(marriage) all---families/society!

[curmudgeonII]

No state judge [and all state judges in Indiana must face re-election at periodic intervals] would ever grant marriage rights to gays. On the other hand, if this reaches the Federal judiciary, results could be almost anything.

[eastsider]

David Wene, 46, and David Squire, 36. The two Indianapolis men, who entered into a civil union in Vermont on Dec. 13, 2000, have been together for more than four years. They met at Jesus Metropolitan Community Church in Indianapolis, where both are active members.

Charlotte Egler, 30, and Dawn Egler, 27, of Hendricks County. They had a civil union ceremony July 5, 2000, in Vermont and have been together for more than five years. This May, their son, Drew, was born from Dawn's egg, fertilized with donated sperm that was then implanted in Charlotte's womb.

Kids: They're Not Just For Heteros Anymore!



MCC Kids OnLine

[Khepera]

Whoever you are, wherever you're from, whatever your religious tradition... YOU ARE WELCOME HERE!

In other words ... we have no standards

[robertpaulsen]

Most homosexuals do not believe in sexual fidelity, even if they are committed to each other. In the heterosexual community, there is a stigma associated with a spouse who has been unfaithful. No such stigma exists in the homosexual community, and it is highly unlikely that the heterosexual stigma will transfer (like you said, who cares what they do?).

My point is, allowing homosexuals to use the term "marriage" to apply to their relationship, cheapens the institution. We do take the chance that, at some point, marriage will be redefined to this new "with it" standard. Is this what we want?

Check this out if you're interested. He says it much better that I ever can.

[steve-b]

And the Dr. Bronner's Soap label is heard from....

[andy_card]

Marriage cheapened? Marriage is already a meaningless term for those who want it meaningless. If you can get married in fifteen minutes in a wedding chappel, and divorced two weeks later, what is there left to preserve? What percentage of the population is divorced? What percentage has been unfaithful to a spouse?

Marriage can be an important commitment between two people, if they want it to be. It can also be completely meaningless. I think it should be left up to citizens to put meaning into their lives, not up to government. If homosexuals want to get married, let them. If heterosexuals want to get divorced or cheat on each other, let them. Its society that should deal with morality, not government.

[Teacher317]

I have a hard time believing that this would change much of anything. If two men want to marry, or beat each other over the head with clubs, or watch Oprah reruns all day, it really doesn't affect anyone except themselves.

They want to change the laws to be treated as if it is a marriage... which includes many monetary concerns, including tax withholding, life and health insurance coverage, Social Security benefits, etc... which means increased taxes for every American.

I agree, "If two men want to marry, or beat each other over the head with clubs, or watch Oprah reruns all day", that's fine, but don't expect the nation to change its laws so that you can draw more money from (monstrous, disgusting) Socialist schemes.

[f.Christian]

Destroy the few remaining good to preserve the rotten!

[Teacher317]

I think it should be left up to citizens to put meaning into their lives, not up to government.

If it is up to the couple to make it meaningful and government has no role to play in it, then why do you support government changing its definitions and rules on marriage to suit those couples?

[Aquinasfan]

This case has to be decided on the basis of natural law. If the state of Indiana does not argue on a natural law basis, the case will be lost regardless of the outcome. It's time to call unnatural acts what they are.

[Gophack]

• Charlotte Egler, 30, and Dawn Egler, 27, of Hendricks County. They had a civil union ceremony July 5, 2000, in Vermont and have been together for more than five years. This May, their son, Drew, was born from Dawn's egg, fertilized with donated sperm that was then implanted in Charlotte's womb.

And this was allowed ... sad.