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Lawyer: Client Shot Once
ctnow.com ^ | August 16, 2002 | TINA A. BROWN

Posted on 08/16/2002 10:40:22 AM PDT by RogerFGay

In the dead of the night on June 20, 2001, Hartford's SWAT team circled a parking lot and an elementary school rooftop, trying to spot Catalino Morales and his fugitive partner from Pennsylvania.

When the fugitives were spotted between two cars on Plainfield Street, officers yelled, "Police, get down. Police, get down to the ground."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: childsupport; donutwatch; fathers
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To: river rat
One "river rat", Feminist Freeper Extraordinaire doth spew:

"I say again....the stupid bastard PICKED the 'whore'...now, pay her!"

To which I reply:

"I say again....the stupid whore PICKED the 'bastard'...now, let her get her own job!"

141 posted on 08/21/2002 2:25:14 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: river rat
"I didn't screw their wives, so I don't think I should support her kids if the father is around and making any money.."

Oh?

So how do you feel about supporting your ex-wife's boyfriend who is sitting around not making any money?

142 posted on 08/21/2002 2:33:54 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Orangedog
"If I can't afford to pay everything the judge says I owe my ex wife after paying to keep a roof over my head, will that make me a deadbeat too?"

Don't be silly. Of course it will make you a deadbeat. And you'll be added to the "statistics" that are waved around in the growing demand for even stronger laws against "deadbeat" dads, the same way confabulated "statistics" are used by the anti-gun lobby to demand stronger and stronger gun control legislation.

This, of course, should come as no surprise, since it's largely the same left wing vermin that afflict the country with both agendas.

143 posted on 08/21/2002 2:42:54 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Kevin Curry
"Nuts are falling from the trees by the bushelfull."

And all too often they're successful in their efforts to curry favor from the conservatives.

Who would have thought a few years ago that today, we'd see "conservatives" bleating like rabid dogs in their support of a radical feminist agenda?

144 posted on 08/21/2002 2:45:59 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: RogerFGay
"Personally, I'm not a weak-kneed bogus politician. I don't accept leaving guys on the battlefield. The interferring problem is the same one I have every time I hear about a particular case. I don't know these particular guys. I don't know the circumstances. I can't make judgments in individual cases just from hearing a little about them. I've always refused opportunities to argue about individual cases. But the article is saying that the ultimate cause of this whole thing was that a guy was behind in child support payments. I don't have to reach a conclusion just from this case. I know what's going on generally, and it's wrong. The government is culpable because of their overall behavior toward fathers who owe child support. I'm not extracting that conclusion from the article alone. I already knew that the government's behavior was wrong before I read about this particular incident. My position is that the government is no less culpable when shots are fired. I think at least we can apply the logical fact that two wrongs do not make a right. The government's bad behavior generally is not in any case cancelled by this guy's response."

In any sufficiently large population, there will be some who can withstand any amount of pressure and come out the other side intact, and there will be some who crack under the pressure. Some will crack under a moderate amount of pressure, and some will crack under a lot of pressure.

If you continue applying the pressure in greater and greater amounts, eventually everyone who will crack... will crack.

We're seeing that happen now, and it's sad to watch "conservatives" attack those who crack under the obscene pressure, rather than address the hard core socialist class warfare tactics used as a tool to create the pressure.

145 posted on 08/21/2002 2:50:38 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: RogerFGay
Hear, hear!
146 posted on 08/21/2002 2:55:49 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: RogerFGay
You must be an out-of-control idiot to defend this PoS who rather than obey the law decided to try and kill the police.
Such fools give this site a bad name.
147 posted on 08/21/2002 2:56:13 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: Orangedog
Hear, hear!
148 posted on 08/21/2002 2:56:32 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: mountaineer; RogerFGay
"A woman abandons the family unit, absconding with the children, and it's the father who's up for punishment due to the 'consequences of his irresponsibility'?"

"I was not aware that no father, in the history of humankind, ever abandoned his children. Thank you for that information."

Let's cut the bullsh!t, shall we? We're not talking about the exception, which you ridicule with your reverse hyperbole. Women are responsible for the vast majority of divorces. Women desert their husbands in the vast majority of divorces.

Yet, men are singled out for demonization and retaliation.

149 posted on 08/21/2002 3:03:31 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: RogerFGay
"Hubert Humphrey"

Bingo. HHH, Founding Member VRWC, Stealth Division. :)

150 posted on 08/21/2002 3:04:20 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
"One "river rat", Feminist Freeper Extraordinaire doth spew: ........."

You should check out your target before you shoot your mouth off.... I'm not a feminist - but love females.. I also picked mine carefully - still married after 40 Years.

""conservatives" bleating like rabid dogs in their support of a radical feminist agenda?"

As a conservative - I take responsibilities seriously - including seeing to the care of minor children. What kind of a conservative would allow their own kids to be dependent upon the charity of strangers if they can avoid that. Regardless of whatever kind of a bitch their "ex" may have been. The children didn't muck things up, the adults did and are refusing to accept their adult responsibilities...

"So how do you feel about supporting your ex-wife's boyfriend who is sitting around not making any money?"

I don't have that problem partner -- STILL married.
Are YOU paying your Ex's stud to hump her now --- is that your problem, bunky? Bummer!

If you think it's unfair for YOU to continue payments -- just think how much MORE unfair it is of you to ask me to pay....

This post started out talking about an asshole that took shots at Police - and folks were defending his action on the basis of the unfair "support payment" laws... Incredible....

I suspect the lack of logic of the defendant and many of his "defenders" in this forum --- indicates a recklessness in how they make serious life decisions and commit to serious life obligations.... They don't seem to accomplish that very effectively

It appears that many have allowed their Alligator mouth to overload their Hummingbird ass... on this topic as well as other aspects of their lives...
Semper Fi

151 posted on 08/21/2002 3:39:47 PM PDT by river rat
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To: river rat; RogerFGay; DNA Rules
You should check out your target before you shoot your mouth off.... I'm not a feminist"

Hey, if you don't want to wear the tag, don't preach the rag.

I call 'em as I see 'em. You espouse feminist agitprop. Waddle waddle, quack quack. Yer a duck.

"What kind of a conservative would allow their own kids to be dependent upon the charity of strangers if they can avoid that."

Utterly vacuous argument insofar as "child support" is concerned. It's like demanding gun control because "what kind of a conservative would allow their own kids to be put at risk by a gun in the house?"

It's a pathetic bullsh!t strawman argument with no basis in reality, that "gets by" on the strength of an appeal to emotion.

"Are YOU paying your Ex's stud to hump her now --- is that your problem, bunky? Bummer!"

Nope, sorry to disappoint you, "Mr." river rat, I'm not. I'm just someone who saw the system for what it is by virtue of having been raped by it for ten years, starting twenty years ago. I'm "over it now" as they say.

I won, by the way.

However, I am not the type person who says, "I got mine, so to hell with the rest of you."

Oh, thanks for chiming in with standard issue man-hater feminista rant, by the way. You look nice in a skirt. (I don't really believe that, I'm just trying to help you "feel good about yourself", dear.)

"If you think it's unfair for YOU to continue payments -- just think how much MORE unfair it is of you to ask me to pay...."

Typical socialist bullsh!t. Never question the legitimacy of the thing itself, merely content yourself with the idea that as long as someone else is shouldering the load, it's okeydokey.

Redistributionist sapsuckers are the reason this country is in the shape it's in. So pardon the contempt, it's nothing personal, I assure you.

"It appears that many have allowed their Alligator mouth to overload their Hummingbird ass..."

If the shoe fits, babycakes. If the shoe fits...

152 posted on 08/21/2002 3:54:46 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
You've got far too much time on your hands, to continue this insane rant of yours.

Alter your home page to say "Nowhere" and "Nothing" - you've got it half right already..

Speak to your physician, to increase your dosage - or stay off the sauce.
Semper Fi

153 posted on 08/21/2002 4:54:09 PM PDT by river rat
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To: jiggyboy
Hell, that's even better then the single bullet theory.
154 posted on 08/21/2002 5:27:19 PM PDT by Brytani
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To: river rat
Typical feminist reaction. Why am I not surprised?

You get miffed because no one shuts up when you you shove your weight around, so you flip into "I am NOT amused!" mode.

It looks silly on women. It looks beyond absurd on men.

Give it up, you're digging yourself in deeper. Cast off the feminist propaganda. Be a man, dammit!

155 posted on 08/21/2002 6:39:18 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: RogerFGay; Cultural Jihad
"Beatdead Dads" way outnumber "Deadbeat Dads".
156 posted on 08/21/2002 7:26:10 PM PDT by DNA Rules
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To: Don Joe
"Be a man, dammit!

You truely are troubled.... Stop being such as asshole.

I have never questioned my manhood - nor have others. And if your opinion really mattered to me - I believe I could convince you I need not squat to pee or be thought a coward..

You seem to think manhood is based on how you debase your woman or family!

Put a little ice on whatever pains you - but I'll not waste any more time trying to discuss the topic --- when all you really do is to continue to show your ignorance.
Semper Fi

157 posted on 08/21/2002 7:51:53 PM PDT by river rat
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To: river rat
"Stop being such as asshole."

Stop being such a feminist.

"I'll not waste any more time trying to discuss the topic"

Promises, promises. I'd say thanks, execept I'm all too familiar with the value of promises that come from feminists.

158 posted on 08/21/2002 8:43:48 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: river rat
Their hyperbole only serves to discredit the cause of father's rights, which I personally don't think was their intention all along.
159 posted on 08/21/2002 9:35:10 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad; river rat
I'm sorry to have stumbled in late to this party. Spill it, Roger oh well known expert- Have YOU, Personally, been involved in a child support action?

Your rantings about "ALL men are railroaded.." sound so, so...well, so much like my feminist friends!

I like that river rat!

160 posted on 08/21/2002 10:59:38 PM PDT by frodolives
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