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Our Tigger Of A President
King Features ^ | Friday, August 16, 2002 | Charlie Reese

Posted on 08/16/2002 9:04:00 AM PDT by Budge

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To: Dane
You are acting like Andy Kaufman, the only difference is that your schtick is "feline" rather than "professional wrestling".

You're probably right, but there's so much competition in the troll category, I'll just hang on to my little niche.




61 posted on 08/20/2002 3:14:41 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: frodolives
Look in your wallet. Check the price on the pumps. Try to buy health insurance. Try to get a good job with a high school education. Try to retire.

I think we need to start seeing other people.
Because everything's always about you.
Just leave the 6-pack at the door.

62 posted on 08/20/2002 3:15:28 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Sabertooth
You're probably right, but there's so much competition in the troll category, I'll just hang on to my little niche.

You hang on to it Saber, and maybe your dream of REM doing a song about you may come true.

Go for your dream Saber. At least no one can accuse me of looking at the glass as half empty.

63 posted on 08/20/2002 3:23:19 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Sabertooth
Perhaps YOU are the (dare I say it) black sheep! :-)


64 posted on 08/20/2002 3:59:05 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: frodolives
Dear, dear. Do you also believe in the Tooth Fairy? You want proof he's a moron? Look in your wallet. Check the price on the pumps. Try to buy health insurance. Try to get a good job with a high school education. Try to retire.

There may a moron around here but it isn't President Bush.

You know, it rained last night and I just washed my car. That must prove Bush is a moron. Yeah, that's the ticket!

Gimme a break. Everything you list - including high gas prices (higher, in fact) existed long before Bush was president. If you dislike Bush, then do so because of his politics or even his family name (as some do) but don't try to blame everything negative in your life on the president. That's just lame and pointless.

65 posted on 08/21/2002 6:16:34 AM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: WhiteGuy
If what you want is a conservative white knight, vote for one, do not vote for a politician.

Agreed.

Unfortunately, politicians get elected, not White Knights.

White Knights make lofty speeches promising followers and true believers the moon and the stars, knowing they'll don't have a snowball's chance in hell of ever coming close to being elected and will never be called to deliver on all those promises of 'fixing' things, quickly...in a representative democracy.

A compromising politician such as George W. Bush does the political balancing act and attempts to appeal to a wide number of the electorate. Bush has no mandate to make sweeping governmental changes and his every move, large or small, is opposed strongly by the Democrats, who have a Senate majority and use it, and many conservatives who bad-mouth everything Bush does, just to prove how pure and constitutional they are. It's a game.

Meanwhile, Bush has the heavy responsibilities of the presidency in a time of war. He gets it from both sides and sometimes I cannot tell the difference between the Democrat criticism and vilification and the self-righteous 'conservatives' that routinely bash and mock a man trying to do his job.

With 270 million people in a country the size of America, no president will ever please everyone so most of the vilification of Bush is predictable. Many folks here just seem to hate all politicians and want us to return to some fantasyland where it's 1790 and government is invisible. Right.

Being a Republican seems to get those folks even angrier, as if a Republican is going to transform the political landscape with a wave of his hand. Reagan didn't and neither will George W. Bush.

There are no White Knights, only politicians. Get past the fantasy, vote for the politician that comes closest to your political values and let go of the anger when they simply don't give you everything you want. They never will. Whining about it and calling them names goes nowhere. Feels good I guess so I understand the temptation but it's wasted energy for the most part.

66 posted on 08/21/2002 6:38:06 AM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: Jim Scott
Jim, Thanks for your thoughtful response.

The problem I have with someone accepting the idea of settling for the politician who comes closest to their views is that it violates the concept of "representation".

Our current batch of congressmen have compromised their way to the largest waste of money, in the form of the "federal budget", in history. The rights of US citizens are slowly being watered down and the government "controls" nearly every aspect of our lives through out of control regulation.

The most disturbing aspect of our system is that both parties attack a "white knight" who proposes a change to the status quo. The big government postition of our politicians is a threat to our way of life and is being expanded at an alarming pace.

We as Americans deserve better. I believe that we must have the courage to seek out the "white knights" and refuse to support or vote for the politicians who take us for granted.

Unfortunately, I also believe that it will get much worse before it gets any better.

67 posted on 08/21/2002 7:15:04 AM PDT by WhiteGuy
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To: Jim Scott
Jim, you make some valid points, however I notice that you totally failed to acknowledge and respond to the fact that the Government has grown more in Bush's two years than in all eight years of Clinton. George W. Bush is NOT doing all that he can to do what is best for the country. Signing legislation that he himself admits is unconstitutional is totally unacceptable, and I cannot, and I will not support a politician who willfully spits on the most sacred document of our nation. He says he is for "local control" of schools, yet his education bill did the exact opposite, swelling the power of the Federal government and reducing the power of local communities to run their schools the way they see fit. The fact that he does not have a "mandate" is totally meaningless. What do you mean he'll "throw away his presidency"? Is his job to lead the nation, or get re-elected? He needs to adhere to the principles upon which he ran, and the simple fact of the matter is that he isn't, and hasn't. He claims to support free trade, and signs a tarriff on steel! The list goes on and on. He says one thing, and then turns around and does the opposite. I'm sorry but he already is throwing away his Presidency, because he repeatedly betrays his base. Sure, most of them will probably begrudgingly vote for him, because the other choice is worse. Will we ever get a real Conservative leader? Doubtful. We get people like Bush who actually give a damn if the media whines about what he does. Reagan pushed his agenda forward with the media wailing all the way, and in the end he accomplished some of the greatest things in this nation's last 100 years. You can say what you want, but George W. Bush is a poor excuse for a Conservative, OR a Republican. I can barely tell him apart from a Democrat.
68 posted on 08/21/2002 10:00:50 AM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: rdb3
That wasn't an argument.
69 posted on 08/21/2002 10:01:38 AM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: That Subliminal Kid
That wasn't an argument.

The hell it wasn't.

Keep talking like you are among the Left and you will be treated as if you are a Leftist.

It's just that simple.

70 posted on 08/21/2002 1:40:15 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: That Subliminal Kid
You can say what you want, but George W. Bush is a poor excuse for a Conservative, OR a Republican. I can barely tell him apart from a Democrat.

This is the kind of statement that causes me to lose interest in discussing the subject with folks who see Bush as 'just like a Democrat'.

A Democrat would cut off funding for abortions, kill the ABM treaty with Russia, dump the Koyoto treaty, nominate conservative, constitutionally respectful judges? Really? I doubt it. Let's be serious here.

George W. Bush can be seen two ways; your way is as a 'conservative leader' who lied and abandoned his principles and so, in your mind, is worthless. This ignores the positive, quite 'conservative' acts and positions he's taken in his 20 months in office.

The other way Bush may be viewed is as a President who was almost defrauded out of his rightful election and beat the defrauders back with aggressive legal actions but will be forever called 'illegitimate' by the hard-core liberal Democrats. This president doesn't have the Reagan mandate and the media is unrelenting in it's hostility. The Democrat leadership in Congress is also obstructionist and unrelenting in it's determination to block Bush from appointing conservative judges and anything else he attempts.

The small tax cut was a major accomplishment for Bush in his first year in office and the liberals still whine about it and attempt to blame it for any economic woes that arise...but you dismiss it as too small.

President Bush never campaigned as a conservative but he did make some poor decisions, already raked over here. They do not render his presidency as 'just like a Democrat'. The expansion of government is partly due to the War on Terror but if that is your benchmark for judging a President, then remember, government has grown - and will continue to do so - under every recent president, including Ronald Reagan.

President Bush has disappointed on some issues but overall, he's a good leader and much closer to my political values than any Democrat could ever be. I'm a realist and don't expect a Republican president to be the answer to conservative prayers. Bush, as I've said, can be faulted but not anywhere near the extent you and some others do, comparing him to a Democrat. That's your judgement and you're free to see the Bush presidency that way but I think it's short-sighted and over-critical.

George W. Bush is a politican, he compromises with a Democratic-run Senate and he has made some policy errors that can be justly criticized but he's also accomplished a lot in a short time under very adverse conditions. Bush is no Democrat and attempts to dismiss him with that term are pointless and wrong.

Being elected is the only way you get anything accomplished in Washington and yes, Bush wants to be re-elected and he wants Republicans to be elected in the Congress this November. That isn't a crime, it's politics. Standing on the outside, shaking your fist at those on the inside making policy doesn't accomplish much. If that's your idea of how to be President, join the Libertarian or some other fringe party. They all do great rants and are invisible on the political radar, just what some folks want. All talk, all criticism all the time, no one ever gets elected so no responsibility for anything. It's fun. Pointless, but fun.

I suggest that if Bush pisses you off so much, please, vote for someone else next election. Maybe a Democrat. There you go! After all, according to you, what's the difference? At least you'll be angry at the right person.

71 posted on 08/22/2002 7:33:56 AM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: rdb3
Sounds good.
72 posted on 08/22/2002 9:51:57 AM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: Jim Scott
Nah, I'll probably vote for Bush, like I'd pick being shot in the arm to being shot in the head if those were my only choices. And I would NEVER align myself with lunatics in the Libertarian party.
73 posted on 08/22/2002 9:53:44 AM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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